Old Guard’s horses living (and dying) in their own filth

| April 8, 2022

The beautiful horses of the 3rd Infantry Regiment’s (Old Guard) Caisson Platoon serve at Arlington National Cemetery. Their duties there largely involve escorting the remains of American heroes and high ranking military officers and politicians to their eternal rest.

Recently two of the horses died within days of each other, causing the Army’s Public Health Command to look into the matter. The results aren’t good.

From Army Times;

An Army report covered by CNN this week revealed that military horses serving as pall-bearers for Arlington National Cemetery have been suffering poor-living conditions, with one horse recently dying in February with 44 pounds of gravel and sand in his stomach.

The report was compiled in February by the U.S. Army’s Public Health Command-Atlantic after two horses with the Old Guard — known for guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier — died within days of each other.

A lack of space, inadequate funding and the turnover of unit commanders were noted as the primary issues. The horses were fed poor-quality feed, suffered parasite infestations and lived in excrement-filled mud lots.

More than a dozen inspections conducted between 2019 and 2022 gave the horse facilities “unsatisfactory” sanitary ratings, despite supposed efforts made by the soldiers of Caisson Platoon, who train and care for the horses, the report found, according to CNN.

There are more than 60 horses attached to the Old Guard, all of which are rotated between stables at Fort Meyer and a six-acre pasture complex at Fort Belvoir, both near Washington, D.C.

Tony, the horse with 44 pounds of sediment in his gut, died of sand colic, the result of being fed in inappropriate feeding areas.

Dr. Gabriele Landolt, an assistant professor of equine medicine at Colorado State University’s veterinary college, told CNN that the amount of sediment found in Tony’s stomach was definitely outside the norm.

“No, that is a lot,” he said. “That should not be in the colon.”

Mickey, the other horse that died in February, died of septic colic, which was caused by an untreated gastrointestinal illness or injury. Manure and bacteria made their way into his bloodstream, causing an infection.

Following Mickey and Tony’s deaths, stool samples were collected from 25 other horses in the unit, with the report showing that 80% of the horses had “moderate to high levels of sediment in their stool,” according to CNN.

The report also revealed the horses were being fed low-nutritional hay, CNN reported. The “color is yellow-brown with large amounts of thick stems and few leaves; dry, dusty, and brittle,” the report showed.

A senior leader with the Old Guard interviewed by CNN reportedly said that “short-term fixes” were already underway, including the purchase of mats for the feeding areas and contract changes to improve the quality of hay fed to the horses.

Longer-term improvements, though, like those needed at the facilities at Fort Belvoir and Fort Myer, rely on increased or re-purposed funding and “may take multiple years to fix,” the senior leader said.

They’re treating those horses like they’re Marines. Nobody deserves that. I’m sure the soldiers of the Old Guard do their best. They take immense pride in their duties. Like any handler, they become quite attached to their animal comrades. I lay blame for this at levels above the line soldier and NCO. Whomever is ordering the cheap, shitty feed for the steeds doesn’t work for a living.

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Sapper3307

Moterpool Monday, gonna be working late.

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Hack Stone

Whoever is ordering the cheap, shitty feed for the steeds is probably getting a kickback. You see that all of the time with the individual in charge of purchasing food for prison inmates.

STSC(SW/SS)

Maybe during an inspection the individual responsible would have an accident as one of the horses got loose and kicked them in head thinking he was the snake he is.

Sapper3307

Most likely landscaping straw from a local garden center.

5JC

The price of hay has quintupled in the last ten years locally. I can only imagine what it costs up in DC where the nearest hay field is likely 100 miles away.

timactual

It has also happened (and probably still does) to actual human soldiers.

Hack Stone

Does the Army have Blacksmith/Farrier as an MOS or do they contract that out to civilians?

Claw

Used to be that Farrier was one section of the MOS I held for Lo those many years, 76Y – Unit Supply Daddy. Don’t know about these days, probably just part of the initial screening process/On-The-Job Training to be a horse handler.

Fm2176

It’s not an MOS, but TOG does, or at least did, train selected Caisson Soldiers to be farriers. They have a retiree who’s been the master farrier for a few decades, and one of my Soldiers who went to the Platoon was trained as a farrier himself but unfortunately had to be medically discharged.

ninja

Perhaps it is time to retire the Caisson tradition.

🤔

KoB

Nope, it’s time to retire the dirtbag that was responsible for getting these horses in the condition that they were in. This is totally uncalled for. Minimum of felony animal abuse. Feed that SOB the same quality of rations and put he/she/it in the same quality of housing for a while. These horses should be getting the same level of care as a Triple Crown Winner, for after all, their job is to transport Heroes.

I was the caretaker for 5 horses for a number of years. Did it by myself and they were provided the best of feed. It wasn’t that complicated and didn’t take that much time every day. This story pi$$ed me off as much as a Stolen Valor Piece does. We HAVE to look after old folks, children, and critters. They can’t look after themselves.

ninja

CNN article goes into more detail:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/07/politics/army-horses-caisson-platoon-conditions/index.html

Lack of funding/$$$$…😔

That is why we stated that perhaps it is time to retire the tradition.

There was even discussion about land space running out to bury those entitled for burial at Arlington…involving $$$.

Reminds me of the days of Unit Reporting…Units were allocated $$$ based on Mission Priority…those at the bottom of $$$ list wanted their equipment (or even having equipment) to be equal to those at the top of the list.

Things kinda change after 9-11, i.e. beginning of OEF/OIF. All of the sudden $$$$ floodgates were open…and unfortunately, some units at the bottom of the foodchain wanted to replace their old equipment with new equipment, even though in reality, their equipment had nothing to do with the “War On Terrorism”..

We need to quit pouring US $$$ to other Countries and take care of our own.
gabn/hbtd/rtr

ninja

Our Taxdollars/Manpower/Soldiers/Horses were wasted on this Phony Vietnam POW being honored and buried at Arlington..

Took a REAL Vietnam POW about 2 years to rectify this.

In reality, that man’s remains should have been dugged up and returned to his family…So Disgusting:

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=67528

Sadly, this is why we cannot gave nice things anymore, because of folks taking advantage and abusing the system.

Additionally, am wondering if the feed was contracted out based on Best Value because of $$$ as well as authorization.

Lots of behind the scene action that are sometimes out of the hands of the Chain of Command.

I know. I speak from experience…

ninja

Takes alot of time/$$$/logistics to have
someone buried at Arlington.

Some families have neither…or choose to have their love one buried closer to home or in a VA Cemetary cersus Arlington.

Don’t think those VA Cemetaries or local cemetaries have a dedicated Caisson Tradition…

If we are not mistaken, Ole Brandon is entitled to that Caisson Tradition..or a Clinton…or BHO..Maybe we are wrong…🤔

KoB

Roger all of the above ninja, and yes, I do agree with all of the points you made. It just, you know how I am about Caissons…and Military Traditions. I also feel that with all the money that is wasted by the grubermint, and the Military, they could at least make sure these crtitters are properly cared for. Make room in Arlington for Military only by removing all of the no count politicians in there and not planting any more. Put the pols in the manure lot. Won’t even need to dig a hole, just cover them up. Who would know the difference? gabn/rtr/hbtd

Thunderstixx

I’m with you Cannon Man, open it up for volunteers and I would bet that the line to take care of the horses would be out the door and around the block.
What a privilege and honor it would be to take care of those horses.
Jail those stupid fux that allowed this to happen.
That goes all the way down the ladder to the lowliest private.
Even they can write a letter to their Congress Critter…

ninja

Thunderstixx:

Please read the CNN article…Also, am speaking from experience…

“Folks” that allowed this to happen are the ones who control the funding…the upkeep of land via Installation Management…the ones who are strict regulators of contracting…

Which all goes back to $$$ and where and how it is allocated within DoD.

We always kid about how the Air Force always seem to take care of their own people when comparing an Air Force installation to an Army Installation.

Heck, I remember working out of old Army T-Barracks…and living in old Army Quarters…and then saw how our Air Force buddies were living…😉😎

And some of the DoD schools we attended? Especially the ones overseas?

The Army does take care of their criiters..Anyone else besides us had a Working MP Dog assigned to them?

If I remember, my pay check once a month as an Enlisted Soldier had a deduction to give to the Soldiers Home in DC.

ninja

Anyone remember Walter Reed Hospital?

It needed upkeep…and upkeep cost $$$$..

And if you don’t get $$$$, you can’t do upkeep.

A General Officer who I personally know got relieved because of the poor structural conditions at Walter Reed. The news Media depicted him as not caring about taking care of the hospital.

The rest of the story that was covered under other stories that in reality, he took over the hospital with a small budget for maintaining that building…anyone ever lived or worked in the DC/Northern Virginia area? You know, the same place as the Old Guard? Talk about EXPENSIVE

He became a Scapegoat. Just as these Old Guard Soldiers who are taking care of these 60 plus horses..without proper $$$$.

Try taking care of/maintaining your home without proper $$$$. Or your pets/animals without proper $$$. Or your land without proper $$$. Or Regulations are preventing you to upkeep your home/land the way you want it done.

ninja

Thunderstixx:

In reality, one just cannot volunteer to take care of Army Property.

So different from the Civilian world…

Again, one needs to focus on the funding to take care of these horses. And the regulation.

Doubt very seriously the Soldiers in the Old Guard intentionally did this…

Sad that the focus is on animals when folks in the US abort babies everyday…

Or some of our Veterans are not being taken care of because of lack of proper $$$.

Or some Veterans abuse the VA system when it comes to Disability and drawing $$$ by embellishing/lying or not even being a Veteran…

Bubblehead Ray

You can’t tell me that, somewhere in the Big Green Machine, there doesn’t exist a, ready to go, cadre of Good Ol Boys with real Horse Ranch experience, that couldn’t be TDY’d to the Old Guard, just to care for these horses. The problem is, the Old Guard are incredible soldiers and my respect for them is immense, but that doesn’t change the fact that a super squared away Staff Sergeant from Newark probably doesn’t know the first thing about caring for a horse. A kid who grew up on a farm or ranch and has cared for horses would have spotted this shit right away.

ninja

KoB:

You commented:

“Make room in Arlington for Military only by removing all of the no count politicians in there and not planting any more.”

YOU NAILED IT!!

Am gonna say because have seen this practiced in other VA Cementaries:

Bury the Spouses together under one land plot instead of 2 land plots unless both spouses served.

Land is becoming scarce at Arlington. Know of others who chose to cremate their Veteran and buried their ashes in the Col..

Have dealt with families who really thought the Army was going to pay for EVERYTHING when initially requesting burial at Arlington for their Veteran, to include preburial arrangements with the deceased, the casket, transporting the casket to Arlington, etc etc.

Big shocker to them.

We need $$$, land, changes in contract regulation to KEEP that Military Tradition!

Quit giving $$ to other Nations and take care of our own, to include our animals! gabn/hbtd/rtr

rgr769

We should end the caisson tradition for anyone who never wore the uniform.

Green Thumb

“Lack of funding/$$$$…😔”

Yeah.

The Army put it all in special one and a half year “train up” programs for certain people with respect to certain military schools…..

ninja

👍👍👍👏👏👏👏

rgr769

Yes, it takes me all of about ten minutes to walk out to the pasture/barn to feed my horse and check his water tub. Then about 20 minutes to pick out his hooves and spray him with fly spray once a week.

When we made the movie “Gettysburg,” we had 79 re-enactor horses on picket lines in a one-acre paddock for two weeks. We had morning details to feed, water the horses and clean the picket lines of horseshit. One horse got colic and I walked him around for three hours until the vet showed up. No horses died or were injured in activities that were inherently more hazardous than anything the caisson platoon does. But then we were all trained make-believe horse soldiers.

Maybe the Army could suspend the training on trannies and misgendering pronouns for the Caisson Platoon long enough for them to learn proper horse care and feeding. I would volunteer to teach the course. In 34 years of horsemanship, I have lost one horse to an unanticipated death (didn’t have it put down).

timactual

It ain’t rocket science, but it does take some knowledge and commitment. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were Field Manuals in the Orderly room concerning the care and feeding of horses. There should be. After all, the Caisson Platoon has been around for a while.
There are enough horse farms, stables, and feed & grain stores within driving distance of Ft. Myers to get good, honest information on keeping horses if the Army has forgotten how. The Army even has a Veterinary Corps for just such duties;

“Army Veterinary Corps Officers are responsible for preventing contagious and zoonotic diseases, providing care to military working dogs, caring for ceremonial horses, treating family pets, and even supporting Human-Animal Bond Programs at military hospitals.”
https://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/specialty-careers/health-care.html

timactual

PS
Perhaps “The Old Guard”, an infantry unit, should be replaced by a cavalry unit if it cannot do its job.

KoB

Eggsxactly my point timactual, and the source of my ire. Uncalled for. And yep, like so many other things in this Country that have gone tits up, pin it on the Kongress Klown Kritters. They, after all, control the purse strings. And as you point out, the information/resources should be right there in the Orderly Room. I had very limited knowledge on the care and maintnance of horses when I started my caretaking. Got my training from the little old lady that owned them. And even on a limited retirement income she made sure her “pets” were well looked after. Never lost one, never had any colic or other health issues. Was complemented by the Horse Vet and the Farrier each time they came for their routine checkups on how well they were doing.

rgr769

No. It is time for the chain of command in the Old Guard to kick some butts. There is no excuse for this. I have a 34-year-old horse in perfect health (have had him for 28 years). He has been eating pelletized alfalfa for the past four years because he is missing four molars and can’t eat hay anymore. Six acres for 60 horses is ridiculous, especially considering all the assets of the DOD. In some counties in this country, it is unlawful to put more than two horses on one acre of pasture. Back in the days when the cavalry had horses, someone would have been court-martialed for this level of care.

rgr769

No. It is time for the chain of command in the Old Guard to kick some butts. There is no excuse for this. I have a 34-year-old horse in perfect health (have had him for 28 years). He has been eating pelletized alfalfa for the past four years because he is missing four molars and can’t eat hay anymore.

Six acres for 60 horses is ridiculous, especially considering all the assets of the DOD. In some counties in this country, it is unlawful to put more than two horses on one acre of pasture. Back in the days when the cavalry had horses, someone would have been court-martialed for this level of care.

timactual

Even a city slicker like me knows something about keeping livestock, and I am smart enough to ask someone who knows more if I need to—the US Army Veterinarian Corps, for instance.

poetrooper

Counselor, are you making ol’ Poe see double? 😜 

Green Thumb

Ever since they re-organized TOG, it has had issues. All of the units used to fall under one Regiment / Battalion.

As to the Officers and Senoir NCO’s in the mix on this? Fire them. Quickly.

Another issue TOG has is bathed in PC and Wokeness. To busy worried about showing off the “historic firsts” (with quite a bit of nine recycle equity) and other making other creative additions to companies / units bullshit than what its mission really is on a day to day basis.

A Proud Infidel®™️

This goes on while the politicians live in the lap of luxury and hand all they can out to illegal aliens!

ninja

API nailed it…

Sometimes we wonder why we treat other Nations/Illegals BETTER $$$ than our folks in our own backyard…🤔

ninja

Based on personal past experience as well as having Family Members serve in the Old Guard, IMHO, don’t believe the Soldiers purposely did this to their horses.

We still believe it ties in with funding/$$$$, regulations stipulated in Contracts when buying feed, $$$ involved in upkeep of the three properties…

Lots and lots of going on behind the scenes logistically involving $$$, Installation Management, Contracting, etc.etc..

We speak from experience.

ninja

The US Army even has an adoption program for their retiring Caisson Horses:

https://www.oldguard.mdw.army.mil/specialty-platoons/caisson/adoption

Think about it.

Gonna stick to our guns. Those Soldiers did not intentionally “abuse” those horses.

All goes back to Funding. $$$. Contract Regulations. DoD Regulations.

Guess we are the only one here that remember the Monthly Briefings on Equipment/Soldier status where $$$ and DoD played a huge role as to who got what.

Anyone else here besides us served or had families serve with the Old Guard?

Again, perhaps it is time to retire the Caisson Tradition. We don’t seem to to have any problems changing uniforms every 5 years..or decommissioning ships…or replacing old warfighting equipment..

timactual

“Those Soldiers did not intentionally “abuse” those horses.”

You keep saying that Who said they did intentionally abuse the horses? The offisers and NCOs were certainly guilty of negligence or dereliction of duty, though.

Fm2176

Perhaps it is time to retire the Caisson…tradition be damned, it is, after all, an honor that excludes a certain class of individuals (non-combat death enlisted). We can’t allow that to happen in this day and age.

I served in TOG twice, and worked closely with a former Caisson Platoon member. He was proud of his Military Horsemanship Badge (MHB), especially since it took the honor of the Tomb Badge as second least awarded (behind the Army Astronaut Badge). That won’t last at the rate MHBs are being passed out.

Caisson Soldiers care about the horses and are passionate about their jobs. It’s well known within the Regiment that prospects are basically shit shovelers for a few months, and even non-Caisson types like me try to spoil the horses (my thing was meowing at them while giving them candy)…

Thunderstixx

Oh for fuck’s sake…..
What kind of stupid are these idiots ???????
All working on the inclusion thing and let the horses die because they aren’t inclusive enough.
Fucking left wing morons…

jeff LPH 3 63-66

Worked with a co worker who joined the Army Cav. (horse) before WW2 and he had a song for payday, chow and I think revelle that went along with the bugle calls. My Uncle was in the Brooklyn guard which was Cav and he relieved Black Jack Pershing down Mexico way and some of his troopers who were told to destroy sick/diseased horses traded them to the locals for booze, so when the horses gave way, the locals showed receipts signed by Gen George Washington and other notables.

Jeff

Esteemed Ladies and Gentlemen,
I was born and raised around horses. I knew how to muck a stall before I knew how to ride a bike. When a horse colic’s, the symptoms are quite obvious. It comes on relatively quickly but, the animals can be treated and potentially saved. I’m not knocking the troopers for this but, I believe they may not be horsemen. Bad feed and hay are very deleterious but, you can do inexpensive things to prevent the animals getting colic. I’ve had my arm up to my shoulder more than once up horses ass pulling rock hard shit balls. I’ve also had a horses ear in my mouth while we shoved a tube up it’s nose and down it’s throat shooting a lubricant into its stomach. This is a travesty that absolutely could have been prevented by people who know horses. As I said, I’m sure the troops did the best they could, but they should have seen what was going on and knew the outcome.
Respectfully,
Jeff

Green Thumb

Some of those horses carry rank as well.

timactual

If he won’t, I will.

Green Thumb

Yep.

Berliner

Move the chain of command offices either to the stables or downwind from the stables until health improves.

HMCS(FMF) ret

WTF? How in the Hell is this allowed to happen? Some SOB needs to hang for animal abuse and neglect.

ninja

“Even though “significant efforts” were made by the soldiers of the Caisson Platoon, who train with and care for the horses daily, the animals’ poor living
conditions have persisted for years, primarily “due to [a] lack of funding,” the report found”.

“Roddy said the Caisson Platoon is his costliest subordinate unit. Out of about 40 platoons, the Caisson herd consumes roughly 20% of the Old Guard’s budget, according to the commander.”

“For the Fort Myer lots specifically, the senior leader said that over the last two years, the unit had submitted requests for prioritized funding to fix the lots into the Facility Investment Plan. “That wasn’t funded,” the leader said.”

“The unit has also requested changes to existing feed contracts, including hay testing to identify any shortfalls in the quality of feed coming from their suppliers”.

timactual

“poor living
conditions have persisted for years, primarily “due to [a] lack of funding, ”

Bullshit.
It doesn’t cost a penny to have a Veterinary Corps officer inspect the stables & pastures monthly. It doesn’t cost a cent to go to the public library, or the post library, and find books on caring for horses.

“…including hay testing.”

More Bullshit. You can learn to tell good hay from bad hay in about 5 minutes. If I can do it, anybody can do it. When you find bad hay you let the vendor know and don’t pay him for it.

ninja

“The stables are staffed by 52 soldiers — who receive 10 weeks of training to take on the role — and overseen by a civilian herd manager who monitors the overall health of the horses”.

“The horses also receive care from the Fort Myer veterinarian and a veterinary technician assigned to the stable who is on call “24 hours,” according to the public tour given to CNN in March. The Old Guard
leadership also said they maintain relationships with off-post veterinarians for referrals and emergencies.”

“According to one estimate compiled by the US Army Corps of Engineers in 2021, the cost to make improvements to the three Fort Myer paddocks would hover around $1 million — a drop in the bucket in terms of military funding, though it does not include the costs for the improvements also needed at Fort Belvoir.”

Everything is based on MONEY. The Soldiers and the Old Guard are doing the best they can on what was given to them.

timactual

That may be what the manual says, but it’s pretty obvious it isn’t being done in reality.

ninja

Mason wrote:

“I lay blame for this at levels above the line soldier and NCO. Whomever is ordering the cheap, shitty feed for the steeds doesn’t work for a living.”

We are so speaking from experience.

This goes way beyond the Old Guard Chain of Command.

Feed for the steed? The Old Guard does not go to the stores to buy feed. They are not allowed to do that. A requisition with $$$ attached and approval has to be implemented and goes way up the food chain. The Contracting Officers do work for a living…and are buying what the Army above the Old Guard Chain of Command is requesting.

Not enough land? Read the CNN article that addrreses this issue. In 1986, there were only 34 horses and about 25 Soldiers to take care of them. Now there are 60 horses with 54 Soldiers.

Perhaps the platoon will be downsized again. The Old Guard is working with twice the horses they had over 30 years ago.

ninja

Again, we are writing from our Army experiences of managing Old Guard Soldiers as well as experiences witjArmy funding, procurement, regulations governing buying and maintaining Army equipment/property, etc etc.

We all have different viewpoints/persectives on this topic based on different backgrounds, Military experiences, timeframe when we served, etc, etc.

Recommend a thorough reading of the CNN article, which elaborates on the Army report. The OFFICIAL Army’s Report bottom line was “lack of funding”, NOT the Old Guard lack of attention to taking care of the horses.

We saw the report. Logistians, Resource Managers, Installation Managers, Army Corps of Engineers, Army Vetenarians, Contracting Officers, etc etcall understand what happened.

Lack of Funding. Lack of Money. Lack of Land, which is once again related back to Money.

Nothing Is Free.

So sad the Army Times article gave the impression to others that it was the Old Guard’s fault. It wasn’t. We know.

ninja

60 horses. Only 2 died.

Half of the 60 horses are close to retirement age.

54 Soldiers are trained 10 weeks to take care of those horses. Almost a one to one ratio. Pretty good.

Old Guard is working with the land that was given to them. Land is becoming scarce even for the Arlington Cemetary to bury Veterans. Because of this, Arlington is having to change the ROE on Burials.

In 1986, there were only 34 horses with 25 Soldiers. There were a lot less before. More horses now with the same land use.

The OFFICIAL Army Report’s bottom line was “LACK OF FUNDING”.

By Law, Old Guard Chain of Command just cannot go to stores surrounding the 3 areas and buy feed. There is a process the Army goes thru to procure ANYTHING. If one goes outside that process, one is breaking the law. It’s called unauthorized spending of US Dollars.

The folks who buy the feed are buying what the Army requests based on the $$$ that goes with that requisition.

timactual

I think everybody here knows that OFFICIAL reports don’t even make good asswipe. I think everybody here also knows that the Army doesn’t buy even paper clips without a ten page specification. I will bet good money that the specs for feed & hay have stringent limits on the amount of sand, gravel, and other foreign matter.

I hear that the Army now has salad bars in the mess halls. What sort of procurement process is used to get fresh fruits & vegetables like lettuce, not to mention meat? I have done it for civilian restaurants, and it ain’t rocket science. And making sure you receive the quality, edible food items you order does NOT cost extra money; it requires common sense and the willingness to do your job correctly and inspect what you get.

ninja

“Mason wrote: “I lay blame for this at levels above the line soldier and NCO.”

Try “ABOVE ” the Old Guard Chain of Command”.

WAY ABOVE.

ninja

“Eighteen inspections conducted from 2019 to 2022 rated the sanitary conditions at the pastures, barns and paddocks as “unsatisfactory.” Even though “significant efforts” were made by the soldiers of the Caisson Platoon, who train with and care for the horses daily, the animals’ poor living
conditions have persisted for years, primarily “due to [a] lack of funding,” the report found.”

“The primary issues are a woeful lack of space, inadequate funding for improvements and routine turnover of the unit’s top leaders, the report found.”

“Two military working horses died unexpectedly within 96 hours of each other in February –  one of whom perished from what equine veterinarians say could have been preventable intestinal compaction that was caused by 44 pounds of gravel and sand found in his gut.”

timactual

“44 pounds of gravel and sand found in his gut.”

Due to inadequate funding, eh?

ninja

Again, so sad that the Army Times article was acknowledged and not the CNN article which went into more detail on the OFFICIAL Army Report on the two deaths.

So sad that the perception is that the deaths was caused by the Old Guard Soldiers and that whoever bought the feed “doesn’t work for a living”…that Cav Soldiers can do a better job than Infantry Soldiers in taking care of the horses, when in reality, it does not make any difference what a Soldiers MOS is…If a unit is NOT given $$$$ to maintain Army Property/Army Equipment, then what do you all expect them to do? Buy everything out of their own pockets to take care of the horses? If they do that, wonderful. They just are not going to get reimbursed for those expenditures that comes out of their pockets.

Volunteers lining up to take care of those horses? In the DC Area? I’ve lived in that area when working at the Pentagon…Off of Glebe Street near Fort Myers. You can’t even get volunteers for the Animal Shelters there.

ninja

Time for DoD and the Army to focus on requesting and receiving $$$$ as a Priority with adequate amounts of $$$$ to take care of these horses so we can continue the Caisson Tradition of honoring our Veterans.

We are spending way too $$$ and emphasis on the “Wokeness”, Political Correctness, CRT, Uniform changes to please a bunch of Liberals.

Also way too much $$$ spent on other Nations. We need to take care of our own!!!

timactual

“Off of Glebe Street near Fort Myers.”

That would be Glebe Road, I’m guessing North Glebe Road.

“If a unit is NOT given $$$$ to maintain Army Property/Army Equipment, then what do you all expect them to do?”

I expect them to do their damn job using the resources available to them. How does keeping sand and gravel out of their feed cost money?

“that Cav Soldiers can do a better job than Infantry Soldiers in taking care of the horses,”

I suggest you take an English course where things like sarcasm, satire, irony, and other literary tropes.

JustALurkinAround

Glue is about to become more affordable.

Skivvy Stacker

At least in the Marines we get nice, fresh, nutrient filled Crayola 64 packs.