Booster shots for COVID-19 will initially be on honor system

| September 25, 2021

The CDC has provided the criteria needed to get the third (booster) shot. The qualifications includes those over 65, those 50 and older with chronic health issues, health workers, etc. The honor system kicks in with the expectation that those lining up for this shot are cleared to get it. The booster shot could be received at least six months after the last jab.

From the New York Post:

“As of today, up to 20 million Americans can get their booster shots,” Jeff Zients, the Biden Administration’s COVID czar, said at a White House briefing.

“We have been preparing and we are hitting the ground running to get booster shots in arms,” he continued.

“There are people who will be getting booster shots as early as this afternoon.”

The move makes a third dose available to Americans aged 65 and over, people over 50 with chronic health issues, and those at high risk due to their jobs or living conditions — such as healthcare workers and teachers, or those who live in homeless shelters or are in jail.

The New York post has the rest of the article here. Joe Biden indicated that they would be available to everybody else later on.

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UpNorth

Zientz is a business man, he was the director of the National Economic Council and followed that up with being the acting director of the Office of Management and Budget. Of course he would be appointed to a quasi medical post by the senile pedo.

Berliner

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Sparks

How true Berliner! Same shit, different flavor. Next will come the Epsilon Variant and a newer, more improved booster. Those in power that know this new and improved Delta Variant booster is bullshit in a sharp stick, will make photo ops of injections of saline solution.

Believe me, there are many in our government that will not touch this booster with a ten-foot pole. But, due to their power, they can have their records reflect whatever they want. Fuck them.

Anonymous

“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous.” –Orwell

rgr769

Welp, they need to promote those drug megacorps that are peddling the newest “vaccines” so they can have a substantial return on those investments. Plus, Saint Fauci likely has a piece of those along with “The Big Guy” and his family.

Fyrfighter

On target rgr.. And ya wanna bet that right after he told everyone NOT to wear masks, Fauci invested heavily in companies that made masks, so that he could turn around and tell everyone to wear em?

Forest Bondurant

I’ve read elsewhere that the vaccines currently available were developed and intended for the “Alpha” varient and not the “Delta”, which could explain why those currently being pushed only attenuate the symptoms, and not provide any boost to immunity.

Sapper3307

Sound legit!
Salty ARMY

SFC D

Turned out to be a false positive. Close enough for COVID kabuki theater.

Fyrfighter

That or the second test was a false negative.. from the stuff I’ve seen, each is about equally likely

Anonymous

All for show.

Roh-Dog

Reeeeeeeeeee!
Salty Army is LEGION!

Sunday, Wednesday, Fried-day at 17:30 Avocado Time (aka Pacific)

Best damn live steam on the interzones!

KoB

Not sure about the Chinese Communist Originated Virus Infecting Disease Booster Jab, but that shot of them Blouse Bunnies sure gave me a boost.

People control, not virus control…THAT is the goal.

Sparks

There is NO way in hell am I getting a booster. Fuck that and fuck Biden and his Covid team of non-expert sycophants.

As stated above, this is not about virus control, it is absolutely about people and population control.

Government recommendations become mandates and then dictates. Fuck them I won’t fly if they won’t let me and I don’t give a shit what they think.

My wife and I had the two-shot original and while I have been fine, she has now developed heart issues and fatigue issues she NEVER had before the shots. She was healthy as a horse and thin and lean. Now her energy has gone to shit and she is having more tests ordered by the cardiologist for arrhythmias she has never had before. This woman had a perfect EKG and stress test, ten years ago as a ‘coming of age’ regimen. And every EKG before and up until two months after the last shot.

So, no we will not get any booster whether FDA approved or not. I do not trust this current government and they have the horsepower to get an FDA approval any time they think it necessary.

Lastly, FUCK THEM!

Graybeard

I had arrhythmia after the two Pfizers.

With consistent cardio (swimming & treadmill) and having a good system beforehand, the arrhythmia has faded, but there is no way I’m running that risk a 2nd time!

Folks in my brother’s nursing home have been vaccinated and are still popping positive, but I don’t think they’ve lost anyone to it. And most of them are well into their 80’s and in less than good health.

Contra that, though, we’ve lost a number prison employees to the Chinese biological attack. A difference in food & exercise may be a contributing factor to that. (Prison food is notoriously fattening – and it’s available in large portions to the employees.)

Sparks

Graybeard, we also had the Pfizer flavor. My wife’s arrhythmia displayed almost two months to the day after her second shot. As I wrote above, she is active, takes better care of herself than most at her age (67, but I never said that) and now, she has a heart condition that after EKGs, a nuclear stress test, and pulmonary test, show her breathing capacity has diminished and the cardiologist is next looking for the further, more extensive blood work to determine if he will do an angiogram. We are not happy about this.

Graybeard

We’ll keep you and Mrs. Sparks in our prayers.

And I’m with you 100% on the reaction to those who want to force another shot on us.

What’s that line they love so much?
“My body, my choice”?

nobunny

Sparks, I hope Mrs. Sparks gets over this ASAP. Like, tomorrow would be good. If I may ask, what is her arrhythmia?

Graybeard, same question to you please.

I have a real interest in this, and my cardiologist hasn’t even mentioned it.

As an aside, I have always hated it when medical “professionals” go Mardi Gras. You know, “show your tits.” Someone should throw some beads. The cheap ones – nothing good.

Fyrfighter

Prayers for Mrs Sparks and GB, hope the recovery is swift and complete.

Sparks

noBunny, the wife has atrial fibrillation.

nobunny

Thank you Sparks. Best wishes that they straighten it out toot sweet.

Amateur Historian

I had the J&J shot and was sick as a horse for two days. I’m currently in an EMS class and I will decline the booster based on my concerns of overstimulating the immune system at intervals shorter than a year.

But now the government will mandate boosters for Healthcare workers, so it looks like they’ll never let me be an EMT.

So, Fuck!

Fyrfighter

For now, it depends on your star Amateur.. As does the possibility of religious / medical exemptions. Be sure to check them out as well. Currently our state hasn’t issued any decrees, and though our Physician advisor is all about the jab, our Chiefs refuse to mandate it. (and before some fool yells about anti-vax idiots or some such, two of the three Chiefs have gotten the jab, they just refuse to mandate it.)

Amateur Historian

Ok I will, thanks 🙂

Fyrfighter

No problem! By virtue of my position, I’ve been far more involved than I ever wished to be in this Charlie Foxtrot..
Admins can put you in touch with me if i can be of any assistance. What state are you in? Colorado here.

Amateur Historian

Same. Colorado Springs.

Fyrfighter

No kidding. Same here. yeah, feel free to contact me through admins if you like, I’d be happy to help.

Amateur Historian

Thanks. I appreciate it.

Fyrfighter

No worries. I had some good firefighters and officers help me throughout my career, only fair to pay it forward.

charles w

Prayers up. I already have a bad heart, don’t need a shot to help that along.

AZRobert

Dr. David Martin has some good info, hope the link works, it’s long but lots of details.

https://youtu.be/gsDlHprql-g

Sapper3307

E4 Mafia '83-'87

Am I the only one that’s going say something? Okay…I’ll take a double-shot and a booster as long as the woman in the thumb nail is giving out the shots. Hi-yo!

Anonymous

Heck yeah!

A Proud Infidel®™

Want to sell Junior Enlisted in the barracks on it? Offer them a free lap dance in exchange for a jab!

26Limabeans

I just got a Flu shot at Walmart. Sore arm itches a bit.

You could not pay me to get a Covid booster I don’t care
if Jonas Salk himself rises from the grave and recommends it.

Commissar

Good on ya.

Way to own the libs.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels:
September 26, 2021 at 12:59 am

– Good on ya.

Way to own the libs.

“Own”? The Commie-czar-ZEK reveals his true COLONIAL colors and that he’s still a FRAUD.

Commissar

Hatchet, my service has been verified.

You are just regurgitating the “fraud” line because you saw it in one of SFC D’s posts.

You are anonymous, and to my knowledge your service has not been verified.

And weren’t you the one that mentioned your days in “military school”?

Anonymous

Ooh, butthurt…

Hatchet

Constantly…

Hatchet

Commissar snivelss:
September 26, 2021 at 11:05 am

– Hatchet, my service has been verified.

Where..?

– You are just regurgitating the “fraud” line because you saw it in one of SFC D’s posts.

No. It goes straight to the FACT that I can actually verify what SFC D is saying as being entirely truthful.

Nope. It’s because you are a VERIFIED FRAUD, Lars.

– You are anonymous, and to my knowledge your service has not been verified.

Why would anyone verify themselves to a FRAUD and a LIAR?

And weren’t you the one that mentioned your days in “military school”?

Yup. Two of ’em as a matter of FACT.
But in all fairness, this question comes from a puffed up little ROTC has-been that never really was…

UpNorth

Seems you stumped the Spapos, Hatchet. Or, he couldn’t find his way back to the keyboard, thank the stars.

Commissar

Stumped me how?

What did he claim that could have stumped me.

Commissar

My service was verified by the custodians of this site.

Yours has not been.

In fact, you are one of the tippy top on the list of those I don’t think ever served.

Hatchet

Really? Oddly, I see no one here coming out to defend or ‘verify’ you. You think..? Every time you try to
‘think’, you weaken the Nation. As previously stated – your a FRAUD and has-been that never really was…

26Limabeans

I never fully understood the past hatred for Walmart by the left.
Seems to have faded over the last decade.
And even the Hillary connection is unpersued by me. Didn’t matter
at the time and still doesn’t.
I like my local Walmart but fear this Covide bullshit is about to
take it away along with the jobs of all the friendly hard working people that
work there regardless of politics. Maybe it’s a rural thing.

I actually trust a private company like Walmart instead of Govt.

Roh-Dog

This goes without saying:
I am not A Doctor.
I am not YOUR Doctor.
I don’t even play one on TV, didn’t stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Fk, my ass only looks ok in scrubs!

That out of the way, we have the data. It’s pretty clear who would benefit, and who wouldn’t benefit from these stupid gene therapies.
Seriously, do your OWN research. Get second, third, forth…. opinion.

To quote the great Doctor Chris Martenson: it didn’t have to be this way.

My prayers go out to the afflicted. May He project and comfort those suffering, now and always. Amen.

Mason

CNN was saying last week that all the right wing pundits saying “Do you own research” was code for “go online and read conspiracy theories.” That’s where the left has gotten to. Educating yourself is wrong.

Fyrfighter
Roh-Dog

This has been making the rounds. Great read!

rgr769

Excellent read on what many of us here have discovered over the past year and a half.

Trigger Warning: Should not be read by Progs as it will cause their fevered brains to explode.

Claw

Hmmm, good to know from fact #30 that 40 new billionaires have been created fighting the virus with seven of those being vaccine manufacturers.

Fyrfighter

Think Fauci is one of the others?

Claw

Nah, don’t think so. Everything I read about him says he’s only worth about 10 to 13 Million./s

Fyrfighter

Yeah, but how old is that info? I mean, besides being the highest paid person in the whole damn government, this “pandemic” is an opportunity!

Roh-Dog

They’re richer than us because they’re better than us. Shit, CNN, PMSNBC, National Peoples’ Radio, ABChina, Google, Apple, Facebook, Pfizer, etc so on… have been telling us what pieces of absolute dogshit, deplorable Nazis the rest of us are.
Maybe our leftie shitstain hangers-on are on to something, if we just lick the finger we can get some table scraps too!

A Proud Infidel®™️

If the damned shots are what they say it is, then why are the vaccinated still getting and why did the politicians in DC exempt themselves from the mandate?

UpNorth

Our “betters” are above such mundane worries, such as the Wu-flu. They know what’s best for us, and they can’t pass up an opportunity to tell us so.
I don’t recall anyone telling the nation that if you’re vaccinated, you may get a weaker version of polio. Or you’ll only get a few spots of measles is you’re vaccinated. Yet we’re supposed to take these asshats serious when they tell us you’ll just get a weaker version of the Wu-flu if you’re vaccinated.

A Proud Infidel®™

Mmmmyeah, and notice how the annual Flu Season has all but disappeared since the China Virus was unleashed?

Mason

Because masks and social distancing work. Doi.

Commissar

Damn you are stupid.

Your question is asinine and shows a complete lack of understanding of the entire issue.

If you were of at least ordinary intelligence I would explain it to you.

But you are not so any explanation would be lost on you.

So I am not going to bother.

NHSparky

Translation:

Dipshit can’t refute.

Commissar

Refute what?

All he did is reveal he is a moron.

And you just did as well for thinking his questions required refutation.

Politicians didn’t “exempt themselves” from Biden’s mandate. Biden is using executive power for the mandate. The power of the executive does not extend to ordering congress to do anything, They were not “exempted”. The president can order anyone in any elected office to do anything, not congress persons, not members of state legislatures, not sheriffs, not mayors, not governors, not city council members…

Politicians did not exempt themselves. The president simply can’t mandate they do anything.

And with the exception of military members…every person “mandated” to get the vaccine can “exempt themselves” by resigning from the position they hold that subjects them to executive branch mandates.

As for his vaccine question; the vaccine is effective at reducing the probability of someone contracting covid, and if they do contract it the vaccine reduces the likelihood of severe symptoms or death. To the extent that someone is 100-1000 times less likely to die of Covid if they are vaccinated.

Breakthrough infections happen with nearly all vaccines. The annual flu vaccine is rarely more than 60% effective at preventing someone from getting the flu. But nearly 100% effective at preventing severe flu symptoms if a vaccinated person does get the flu. And a vaccine that is 60% effective at preventing infections has a massive impact on reducing the total flu infections in a given year.

You get vaccinated to protect yourself and reduce the spread of the “annual” flu throughout or society.

That is the same reason you get the Covid vaccine. The fact that Covid is approximately 20 times more deadly than the flu, and 50 times more likely to cause severe symptoms is all the more reason why people have a basic social obligation to get vaccinated for Covid.

Hatchet

More meaningless BLAH BLAH BLAH from the Commie-czar-ZEK…

Commissar

This is why I didn’t bother responding to a Infidel.

Waste of time.

I am positive you didn’t read it. And probably would have failed to grasp it if you had.

Before you came along Infidel had no realcompetition for the dumbest fuck here.

A Proud Infidel®™️

THE SAME Government that is pimping the jab is THE SAME ONE which once approved DDT for use as well as Agent Orange and then told our Veterans who were exposed to it that the latter only harmed plants.

You lose yet again, Major Moonbat.

Hatchet

“no realcompetition for the dumbest fuck here.”

Nice to see you proving your University-taught literacy, again and again.. But your statement is accurate – you are definitely THE dumbest FUCK here…

SFC D

“Politicians did not exempt themselves. The president simply can’t mandate they do anything.” So they’re still exempt, just through a different process. Incredible deflection, awesome spin, and you’re a fraud.

Commissar

“So they are still exempt, just through a different process”.

No. No process. They just can’t be told what to do. Period.

They didn’t “exempt themselves”. The mandates never applied to them and never could be applied to them.

You either are both moving the goalposts.., and willfully misunderstanding the entire issue.

This is why answering these questions are a waste of time.

I can’t fix the level if intransigent stupidity you all cling to as though being stupid is your entire political and personal identity.

Fyrfighter

The leaderships in the House and Senate could easily mandate it for themselves, if they wanted to, no?

SFC D

I’m moving the goalposts? You say “No. No process. They just can’t be told what to do. Period.”

They are exempt because they cannot be told to take the vaccine, and have not decided for themselves to take it. Therefore, they have exempted themselves. It’s very simple logic. Fraud.

SgtM

Moving the goalpost, like changing the definition of a vaccine.

NHSparky

TL;DR.

Biden EXEMPTED Congress. He also exempted several government unions. He also mandated employers with over 100 employees? Why 100? Why not 50? Why not make it mandatory for everyone?

I’ll start treating this like a crisis when TPTB start treating it like one.

Now go feel the spirit, Lars. Preferably somewhere far away.

Commissioner Wretched

In other words, you don’t know.

Commissar

I responded above,

An I am disappointed in you.

I didn’t previously have you in the same dipshit basket as Infidel.

Hatchet

Awww, butt-hurt are we?

A Proud Infidel®™️

Did I pull his lanyard or did I? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hatchet

😎👍

Hatchet

“In other words, you don’t know.”

Basically, yes. Hasn’t a clue and no one would sell him one if they had one for sale..

A Proud Infidel®™

Translation: “Believe the Government propaganda like it’s Gospel, I do, so be JUST like me or…”

That’s exactly what I see in your comment, Major Moonbat!

Hatchet

Commissar snivels:
September 26, 2021 at 12:58 am

– Damn you are stupid.

Correct Commie-czar-ZEK. It takes STUPID to know STUPID.

– Your question is asinine and shows a complete lack of understanding of the entire issue.

No Commie-czar-ZEK, it’s YOU who’s asinine and simply go’s to the FACT that you’ll never have enough brain-cells to actually realize it..

– If you were of at least ordinary intelligence I would explain it to you.

Commie-czar-ZEK – you couldn’t explain your way out of a soaking wet piss-bag if your trite and unimportant life depended on it.

– But you are not so any explanation would be lost on you.

Commie-czar-ZEK, underscores yet again that he cannot spell, form coherent sentences or even begin to understand what syntax is actually for.

– So I am not going to bother.

No. Don’t. But be happy with the FACT that your still an DROOLING IDIOT and a COMPLETE FRAUD.

A Proud Infidel®™️

If you could buy Major Moonbat aka Commissar for what he is really worth and then sell him for what he THINKS he’s worth you could retire richer than Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates put together!

ArmyATC

Don’t you have some senior citizen deaths to celebrate?

Fuck off.
Keep fucking off till you come to a gate with a sign that reads, “no fucking off beyond this point.”
Climb over that gate, dream the impossible dream, and keep fucking off forever.

Commissar

My comments were driven by the motivation to convince you nitwits to wear a mask, take Covid seriously, and get vaccinated.

The opposite of wishing you dead.

But at this point I don’t care anymore. Self absorbed whiny little fucks that are still refusing to act with any regard for the health and safety of others and continue to be voluntary viral vectors deserve to get Covid.

So, yes, I have started to raise a glass to the deaths of dipshits who refuse to get vaccinated and consistently put the health of everyone around them at risk.

Cheers to Darwin on their deaths.

Hatchet

Commissar sniivels yet again:
September 26, 2021 at 11:15 am

– My comments were driven by the motivation to convince you nitwits to wear a mask, take Covid seriously, and get vaccinated.

Your comments are consistently driven by the self-serving FACT that you love the sound of your own voice and seeing your meaningless words in print ONLY. However, to set the record straight – there is only one nit-wit here – YOU Lars.

– The opposite of wishing you dead.

No worries. We will always wish the opposite of what you wish for, Lars.

But at this point I don’t care anymore. Self absorbed whiny little fucks that are still refusing to act with any regard for the health and safety of others and continue to be voluntary viral vectors deserve to get Covid.

Good that you don’t care anymore. Almost every TAH entry indicates that everyone stopped caring about your nonsensical diatribes ages ago…

– So, yes, I have started to raise a glass to the deaths of dipshits who refuse to get vaccinated and consistently put the health of everyone around them at risk.

Yup. And we’re still fresh out of fucks to give, Lars

Cheers to Darwin on their deaths.

True dat! When you’re gone and planted, Darwin’s going to tap-dance on whatever unmarked cat-hole they roll you into and forget about, Lars..

SFC D

You raised that glass over a year ago. You’re a fraud. You lie about your lies.

NHSparky

You mean the comments you made 18 months ago. You own it, lace that bitch up and wear it.

Anonymous

I.e., “You ignorant peons can’t understand my superior logic– get to the back of the bus!”

Commissar

No.

Infidel is unusually stupid.

My opinion of Infidel does not apply to the rest of the regulars. Mostly.

A Proud Infidel®™️

If idiocy was propulsion, you would be able to travel at least twice the speed of light!

LC

My two cents on what I think you’re asking:

If the damned shots are what they say it is…

Meaning, an effective protection against the virus? Doesn’t the data showing the vast majority of deaths are among the unvaccinated make that pretty clear? If not, why? To be clear, nobody has said they’re a 100% effective response. But they’re clearly very helpful.

..then why are the vaccinated still getting [sick]..

I’m guessing ‘sick’ is the missing word there, and it’s because they aren’t 100% effective. Just as most people -even unvaccinated- won’t die from the virus, but some small percentage will, most vaccinated won’t get very sick.. but some small percentage will. Vaccines are not binary things; it’s not like if you have it, you’re fully protected. It’s like body armor. It reduces your chance of taking a fatal round, but doesn’t make you invincible.

and why did the politicians in DC exempt themselves from the mandate?

I believe this is simply because POTUS can mandate it for the executive branch of the government, but not the legislative or judicial branch. For better or worse, that’s just what’s legally allowed.

Commissar

You have the patience of a saint LC.

But as you can see by Infidel’s comments on this thread your efforts are in vain.

His questions were not asked in good faith, nor is he able to comprehend your answers.

He just continues to spew the same nonsense. No indication whatsoever that anything you have said has caused a single synapse to fire in his dead weight of a brain.

LC

Even if he won’t change his mind, and that’s certainly his prerogative, I feel there’s more to be gained from even ill-fated attempts at conversation than name-calling, at least in most cases here.

There are certainly some voices -some of the loudest ones, naturally- who are pretty unreasonable, but I feel there are others who maybe listen more than they write who might consider a different point of view.

If nothing else, at least I learn a little more about how others are thinking.

Fyrfighter

It’s amazing how many people on “social” media think that berating, denigrating, and attacking those with different beliefs / opinions will encourage them to change their minds on this and other topics..

LC

I agree, obviously, that it’s not helpful… but at the same time, I can certainly understand the frustration. Commissar thinks I have the patience of a saint, but the reality is I’m on here less frequently than he is, and that makes a world of difference.

I’ve got friends and family members who are big ‘Q’ adherents – one who is adamant that soon, Trump will be reinstated, and JFK Jr will rise from the shadows after faking his death to be his VP. This was going to happen last August. Then November. Then January. Then May. Now it’s October. After October, it’ll shift again.

There’s no recognition that this is a fantasy, and not reality.
It wears you down. I know you have kids who are pretty liberal, and find that difficult, right? I can’t speak for you, but I imagine you need to tackle it in small doses, because dealing with that every day is difficult.

Add in to that how easy it is to interact with people you don’t know, and thus don’t initially hold any respect for -the opposite, actually!- and it’s pretty simple to see how things devolve. It’s not good, but it’s understandable. The only way to try to combat it is to try to extend common courtesy and argue in good faith where possible, … and do it in small doses, in my opinion.

It’s worth it, I think, it’s just not as easy as ranting and raving.

Fyrfighter

There’s definitely nuts and nutty theories on both sides, though I assume our opinions will differ as to which side has the majority. Yes, I’ve got one kid that is so left wing, I haven’t talked to her in four years, as well as some siblings that fall just slightly less nuts than her to even crazier. The most insane one lives with my dad, which makes it impossible to visit him, because she gets flat out violent and attempts to initiate a confrontation so she can call the police..(did i mention she’s a huge “defund the police” supporter??? Good thing hypocrisy doesn’t bother her). The thing is, there are serious differences of opinion, as well as information that has been suppressed from experts in the field (if the “facts” are on your side, why suppress alternate information?) that does not fall anywhere near the “Q” conspiracies, and some like commissar fail to recognize the difference. Lastly, as sad as it is, events over the last 5 years have proven many conspiracies correct.. like the plot to kidnap gov witmer turning out to be almost nothing but FBI and their informants?? And as other posts in this thread mention, effective treatment for the disease have been ignored, ridiculed, or banned, in favor of vaccines, which as you and commissar both point out are not 100% effective. Then there’s his rants about those who refuse to get the jab, with not a mention, suggestion, or consideration for those who due to medical conditions CAN’T get the jab.. or all those who suffered from those complications before the precautions were put on the shots ( Guilliane Barre is one.. the incidence of it after the jab is more than 10x the incidence of it with the flu vaccine which has had the precaution for years) More testing before release might have prevented some of those. And it seems that such things should be recognized. Then add in the recent whistleblowers pointing out how adverse effects are being seriously underreported, and it seems understandable that there is hesitancy, because why hide / lie/… Read more »

Fyrfighter

Interesting that last month the CDC changed the definition of “vaccine” so that the current shots would qualify.. It would seem then that prior to the change, these shots did NOT meet the definition. That just seems odd to me. Maybe someone can explain it?

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article254111268.html

rgr769

I’ll explain for you. In the Prog Newspeak Dictionary footnotes: “When we use a word, it means whatever we say it means.”

LC

I think the choice of words simply has never come under such scrutiny before — vaccines never offer immunity. The polio vaccine? Doesn’t offer immunity. The tetanus shot? Doesn’t offer immunity. Measles? Doesn’t offer immunity. Incidentally, each of those have boosters associated with them, too.

Basically, the prior definition wasn’t as correct as the current one, but didn’t fall under intense scrutiny until now. It’d be a bit like how at one point the definition for ‘motor vehicle’ included reference to a combustion engine, which isn’t the case in electric vehicles.. so it was changed to be more accurate. Nothing nefarious.

rgr769

Ditto, for my response to the Mendacious Mollusk, below (infra for those of us in the legal biz).

LC

So, let me get this straight, you used a mouse [‘any of a large number of rodents resembling rats but smaller, with hairless tails..’] to click on this blog entry, then typed your response about definitions of words on a keyboard [‘the keys of a piano, organ, typewriter, etc’], to tell me that definitions can’t be adapted to be more inclusive of modern terminology and concepts?!

Definitions above come from my copy of Webster’s Dictionary, c. 1988. But it’ll probably blow your mind to know that books [‘a number of printed pages fastened together and enclosed in a cover’] can also be found online, and someone must’ve gotten to the people at Merriam-Webster, ​since they updated their definition of these terms since that publication. Now, in what is surely a liberal conspiracy, a ‘mouse’ can, indeed, be a device by which one operates a computer:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mouse

If you want their current definition of vaccine, here you go:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine

I generally extend some benefit of the doubt to people here, but you excel at idiocy of the highest degree, rgr. I don’t know whether to be impressed how you still function in society, or sad, since surely at some point you were a reasonable human being.

Roh-Dog

It’s not a fucking vaccine, you insufferable prick. You holier than thou attitude is getting down right sickening.
I don’t care how fucking smart you are, or well trained, this act has gotten fucking old.
It IS NOT a vaccine. Pfizer and J&J are at best therapeutics, or better described as gene therapies.
There is no conferred viral material or analog to teach the body to respond.
You KNOW this and want to fight about this bullshit and be a fucking asshole about it?

Let me know where and when you’d like to meet so we can see if you’d like to continue to be a mouthy condescending fuck.

LC

Trump call it a vaccine. Mitch McConnell calls it a vaccine. Pfizer calls it a vaccine. Robert Malone, the skeptic who claims he invented it calls it a fucking vaccine. Virtually every country in the world calls it a vaccine. The god-damn dictionary calls it a vaccine.

There is no conferred viral material or analog to teach the body to respond.

And you still don’t even understand how it works, either.

So you insist is isn’t a vaccine, and channel your inner internet-tough-guy rage, and want to meet up to, ooh, intimidate me? I’m scared, Roh-Puppy. So scared.

Good grief, man.

Roh-Dog

Yeah, I do understand how the GCI works. Do you is the question.

They, rightly or wrongly, have been using ‘vaccine’ as shorthand and now the They have changed the Dictionary definitions to the illegal implantable medical device being forced upon a’many people in the name of science and profit.

And you KNOW this, and continue to argue semantics and be a prick about it.

FUCK YOU.

For a ‘man’ who uses such flowery prose you really don’t understand slang, or nuance in ease of speech, nor technical definitions, nor science, nor honor.

I’m serious. Your actions are that of a sullied cow, your mother and father are amebae, you have no honor.

I live in Connecticut and will be happy to meet you anydamnwhere east of Chicago so we can hash this out.

I’ll even let you get the first swipe and then you’ll be swallowing your fucking teeth.

I aint joking. I’ve had enough and I’m calling you out, bitchmade.

rgr769

No, progtard, I used an actual Webster’s collegiate dictionary, a book. My point was that you fucking proglodytes just redefine any word to mean what you claim it means. Thus, a set of split reins becomes a whip. Although twats like you and your senile president wouldn’t know that, having never ridden a horse.

Considering you never ever served in the military, just go away. Your twaddle is of no use to us that have worn the uniform, some of us in actual combat.

Commissar

The article explained it pretty well. First, this was merely a change to a webpage. A webpage that was never intended to be the established authority on the definition of “vaccine”. It was intended to be for informational purposes to increase public understanding and awareness. The webpage, and the “definition” on it was not written to handle the kind of motivated skepticism and conspiracy minded dissection we are seeing on social media due to the politicization of Covid and the vaccines. The word “product” was a poorly chosen word. It primarily refers to an item produced for sale. An item produced to make a profit. Wether a vaccine is commercially produced or not has no bearing on it being a vaccine. Vaccines are a public health tool. Profit is not the primary driver behind vaccine development. When web skeptics started making claims that Covid and the subsequent vaccines were just a conspiracy so Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson could make a buck the CDC realized their chosen wording was hindering public understanding because it was priming people to thing of vaccines as commercial products. There was never a single universally accepted definition of a vaccine. If you visit dozens of government and private website the explanation of a vaccine will differ. Web “sleuths” scoured various definitions on various government websites and started using discrepancies to scream “conspiracy!”. As for the change to the word “immunity”…that has more to do with the differences between the medical understanding of the word and the public understanding. The concept of immunity is that something is “resistant” to a disease. So in the medical community, saying something has “immunity” it is understood to mean “highly resistant”. The public tends to understand the word “immunity” to mean that someone can’t be infected by a particular disease. Immunity does not mean someone can’t be infected, it just means they are highly resistant. The failure of a significant percentage of our population to understand that vaccines are not 100% effective has led to a lot of confusion and unnecessary skepticism about Covid vaccines because in the minds… Read more »

rgr769

You are always an apologist for the Progda that masquerades as the mainstream media and whatever they are pedaling. My non-Newspeak dictionary (Webster’s) says a vaccine is a preparation of a weakened or killed microorganism used to create “artificial immunity” in those inoculated with it. But nice try belated Winston Smith. You and Humpty Dumpty have a lot in common.

A Proud Infidel®™️

If he was Humpty Dumpty, he’d jump off the wall and blame Donald Trump for breaking to pieces!

Anonymous

Somebody else is always responsible for Leftists’ actions.

Fyrfighter

Tell us again how serious covid is, and how the biden regime is about it…

https://victorygirlsblog.com/mayorkas-admits-releasing-haitians-into-us-interior/

Commissar

My doctor called me this week and I received my booster Friday.

Not exactly the “honor system”. I couldn’t have just walked in a received one like you can the first doses of the vaccine. My doctor’s nurse had to directly schedule it.

I was put on the list because I am immune compromised and on experimental infusions that suppress my immune system further.

I am sure some medical facilities across the nation have screening systems and lists that could be gamed by someone being unscrupulous.

But that is not how most of these boosters are being administered.

A Proud Infidel®™

Thaaaat’s a good little minion, the Government says so and there you go marching to their cadence, but ONLY IF a D-rat and its propaganda crew are in charge, if Donald J. Trump was still in Office you’d be screeching that he’s profiting off the vaccine and all the other shit you said when he was in. Oh well, there’s 2022 and 2024 to look forward to!

Commissar

You should definitely not get the Covid vaccine.

Most of the people here definitely should.

You shouldn’t.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels yet again:
September 26, 2021 at 11:10 am

– You should definitely not get the Covid vaccine.

With your allegedly ‘compromised autoimmune system’ – you probably shouldn’t either but you previously stated you did get the shot. However, given to purported chances of dying from this shot, I’d say you should probably do the World the biggest favor and go for it, Lars!!

– Most of the people here definitely should.

More UNQUALIFIED bull-shit ‘advice’ from the Commie-czar-ZEK..

– You shouldn’t.

Neither should you but allegedly, you did get the shot and – predictably – now you tell others that they shouldn’t.
Just more proof that you’re a contradictory LIAR and a complete FRAUD.. FUCK OFF.

Commissar

You are clueless.

Also, calling me a fraud is nonsense.

My service has been verified. And any claims I have made about my service have been subjected to more skepticism than most.

SFC D

Nobody’s questioning your service, just the actual value of it. And you’re a proven fraud. A repeat offender.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels again::
September 26, 2021 at 12:23 pm
– You are clueless.

With ALL the BASELESS and UNSUPPORTED CLAIMS you consistently make, that’s almost..funny.

– Also, calling me a fraud is nonsense.

Nope. The only ‘nonsense’ are your continued BASELESS and UNSUPPORTED claims..

– My service has been verified. And any claims I have made about my service have been subjected to more skepticism than most.

Skepticism? No. It goes straight to the consistently BASELESS and UNSUPPORTED claims you make. So, in spite of ALL your claims to the contrary – you are a FRAUD.

Poetrooper

As a supposedly brilliant grad student, Lars, you should know that skepticism does not equal scrutiny…

Hatchet

Well said, Poe.

Mason

Questioning Saint Fauci of COVID is heresy. Banishment from society is the only logical answer.

Anonymous

Us ign’nant ‘Merica-lovers who can’t understand the beauty of the socialist Great Reset should get sick and die, eh?

A Proud Infidel®™️🦠

His fancy pants cup of coffee-stuff with some foot long name was thirty seconds late, so he came here to rant before going off to pout in some corner. I WILL give credit where it’s due, this is the farthest I’ve ever seen him go without shitting his britches over Donald Trump!
🦠🦠🦠I now have this in my emoji inventory, do I need to run an antivirus? *AH-CHOO!!* 🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠🦠. Aww shit, sorry about that, y’all!

Sapper3307

Hatchet

Commissar snivels:
September 26, 2021 at 12:55 am

– My doctor called me this week and I received my booster Friday.

And..?

– Not exactly the “honor system”. I couldn’t have just walked in a received one like you can the first doses of the vaccine. My doctor’s nurse had to directly schedule it.

And? So what..?!

– I was put on the list because I am immune compromised and on experimental infusions that suppress my immune system further.

And WHY does your compromised immune system and these so-called experimental infusions that your supposedly being given, actually matter and relate to the World..?

– I am sure some medical facilities across the nation have screening systems and lists that could be gamed by someone being unscrupulous.

Yup. Commie-czar-ZEK is definitely well versed at ‘gaming the system’ and of course, being ‘unscrupulous’.

– But that is not how most of these boosters are being administered.

BIG SURPRISE!!! More idiotic and unqualified statements from the Commie-czar-ZEK… FRAUD.

Commissar

You are just grasping.

The blog pay implied these were being given through the honor system.

I anecdotally explained how they were being administered by on the the largest medical providers in the country to show it was not being done by the “honor system”.

You inability to comprehend context is entirely to blame for every one of your responses.

Anonymous

Dude, just say “Yo mama!” and be done with it.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels yet again:
September 26, 2021 at 11:08 am

– You are just grasping.

You would know as you’re the internet ‘expert’ on grasping, Lars..

– The blog pay implied these were being given through the honor system.

And..?

– I anecdotally explained how they were being administered by on the the largest medical providers in the country to show it was not being done by the “honor system”.

Yup. Underscored with no FACTS. But it is rather entertaining and completely surprising that you actually can spell the word ‘Honor’. But, can you actually comprehend what that word really means..?

– You inability to comprehend context is entirely to blame for every one of your responses.

An excellent self-diagnosis, Lars but this FACT only applies to YOU. The good news is, you’re still a LIAR and a
FRAUD.

SFC D

You anecdotally explained how “your” primary care provider operates. One singular example does not a consensus make.

Roh-Dog

When you view everything from the skylight of your rectum, everything has a brownish hue.

He’s just channeling his inner totalitarian monkey-brain, where someone much smarter than he runs a centralized repository of the jabbed while Lars mops the floor.

ArmyATC

I didn’t realize that being a brainless twit was an immunity problem.

Poetrooper

Lars says, “If you were of at least ordinary intelligence I would explain it to you.”

Do you, Lars, realize how that makes you sound like
an absolute and totally insufferable asshole?

What the hell is wrong with you that you feel the need to insult people you don’t even know?

You are one sick puppy…

Commissar

I wasted enough time with Infidel.

He is incapable of grasping the most basic concepts. Does not understand rudimentary math.

And is devoid of the ability to reason.

I could spend time writing a paragraph or few explaining things to him. But it would accomplish nothing.

And your response is in bad faith. You have seen me type paragraphs of explanation to him and others on Covid related issues and he would just respond with one line dipshit dismissive comments indicating he understood nothing I said.

A Proud Infidel®™

Percival Pudpounder is one of the names I’m considering for the character in my book I’m patterning after you!

Deckie

How about Scrotie McDickinass?

rgr769

How about Tater Taintlicker?

Berliner

Комиссар, pronounced Komissar is russian for Commissar, which fits him as a follower of Marxism.
政委, pronounced Zhèngwěi fits him as an bootlicker of Xi Jinping.

ArmyATC

Wow! I’m sure the irony flew right over your pointy little head.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels again:
September 26, 2021 at 2:20 am

– I wasted enough time with Infidel.

And I’m sure API®™ is thoroughly relived to read that.

– He is incapable of grasping the most basic concepts. Does not understand rudimentary math.

THIS coming from someone who allegedly attended university that cannot spell, form a coherent sentence or present a scintilla of logic.

– And is devoid of the ability to reason.

FINALLY! A TRUE statement: Commie-czar-ZEK, IS UTTERLY DEVOID OF ANY ABILITY TO REASON!!

– I could spend time writing a paragraph or few explaining things to him. But it would accomplish nothing.

“I could spend time writing a paragraph or few explaining things to him”
‘Or few’?
OR, HOW ABOUT LEARNING HOW TO ACTUALLY COMPOSE A SENTENCE, YOU MORON!!!

And your response is in bad faith. You have seen me type paragraphs of explanation to him and others on Covid related issues and he would just respond with one line dipshit dismissive comments indicating he understood nothing I said.

COMMIE-CZAR-ZEK – BOTTOM LINE – you’re an IDIOT and utterly disingenuous FRAUD. FUCK OFF.

A Proud Infidel®™️

*WHOOOOO!*, not only did I pull his lanyard, I also discovered to what degree I live rent-free in his head!

Anonymous

Didn’t you try-out for Lex Luthor or some Bond villain?

Hatchet

No. Nether movie franchise will ever need to stoop that low…

SFC D

What was that ugly fuckin cat that Dr. Evil had, Mr. Biggelsworth? That’s about all he’s up for.

Commissar

Poe, the responses to my wasting time explaining this above make it clear my response to Infidel was justified.

Waste of time exhaling anything to most here.

Infidel and Hatchet in particular.

Commissar

*explaining, not “exhaling”.

Hatchet

Spelling and syntax? This would also include proof-reading. But! You CLAIM to have actually attended University, right?!

A Proud Infidel®™️

🤣 Yeah, I spend more than my fair share of time screwing around online, but when I’m not doing that, I’m working at a well-paying job where I know I make more than you, I work on my home when I’m not spending time with my Wife and Kids, I and everyone else here on TAH really don’t give two hoots of a moldy rat turd what you think of us, you’re like one of the “jingly toys” I roll out on the floor for my Cats to play with whenever they’re not asleep atop me while I’m snoozing on the couch as they purr like there’s no tomorrow, you need to learn how to let go of some things, I did and no sooner than that life got much better for me!

Poetrooper

“Waste of time exhaling anything to most here.”

And yet you persist…

Hatchet

Yup. Just stop breathing..

Commissar

Another bad faith response by Poe.

I say it is not worth my time to explain something.

You call me out for being an asshole for saying that.

So I decide to explain something to someone I thought was asking a good faith question…

Then you call me out for “persisting” in my attempts to explain things.

You are just being a troll.

A Proud Infidel®™

Apparently I’m far from being the only one here who knows how to pull your lanyard and make you shoot off! XD

Skivvy Stacker

And how long will it be on the honor system before the gubmint decides to mandate them? I’d say about a week.

Commissar

No.

A Proud Infidel®™️

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Fyrfighter

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55193939

Well, that didn’t age well..

Commissar

Covid vaccines are still not mandatory.

Except for military members. And I am surprised it took as long as it did to mandate that military members get them.

At least 46 active duty members have died of Covid so far. Over 100,000 service members infected resulting in disruptions of readiness in units across the services. Particularly disruptions in Naval operations.

Military members are mandated several vaccines to prevent just this kind of disruption.

Hatchet

Commissar snivels for the umpteenth time:
September 26, 2021 at 12:33 pm

– Covid vaccines are still not mandatory.

And..?

– Except for military members. And I am surprised it took as long as it did to mandate that military members get them.

Which only serves to underscore that you’re nit-wit that’s easily surprised

– At least 46 active duty members have died of Covid so far. Over 100,000 service members infected resulting in disruptions of readiness in units across the services. Particularly disruptions in Naval operations.

Supported with FACTS?

– Military members are mandated several vaccines to prevent just this kind of disruption.

Yes. Which only proves you have a firm grasp of the obvious, Lars.

Commissar

Each service department and the DOD releases Covid totals.

So “yes”, supported by facts.

I said “at least 46” because that was the last number I saw released bit we are seeing more deaths nearly every week at this point.

A Proud Infidel®™️

Let’s not forget that YOU were the one here screeching that the Zika virus was going to be some kind of apocalypse, now you’re a self-coronated expert on this virus from China babbling like the cockwomble we know you to be!

Fyrfighter

Hey API, credit where credit is due.. he’s been at least as accurate / consistent as St. Fauci…

A Proud Infidel®™

Yeah, you’re right FF!

Commissar

That is not what I said.

I was talking about pandemics in general being one of our biggest national security threats. I used Ebola and Zika as examples.

I was actually dead on in predicting a pandemic being one of our most likely threats.

A Proud Infidel®™️

🦠🦠*AH-TCHOO!*🦠🦠🦠
Aww shit, 🦠, here I go again,🦠🦠 my phone 🦠sneezed 🦠, did it pick a 🦠virus🦠 up and pass 🦠it🦠around? 🦠My bad🦠!

AS TO you Major Moonbat, YOU have been quite the doomsday panic-monger more than a couple of times, and now you’re going triple batshit over a virus from China that has over a 99% survival rate.

Commissar

Funny how you can’t post a link to me saying what you claim I said.

SFC D

“Covid vaccines are still not mandatory.” Except for service members. And government employees. And government contractors. And employees of any company with more than 100 employees. You’re a fraud. You used to be better at it. Keep practicing.

Fyrfighter

Did you miss the companies bigger than 100 employees? Or medical professions? or federal contractors?
Biden is pushing all that, in contradiction to the above comment..
It seems that he changes his mind / position more often than Fauci..

Fyrfighter

How much disruption has happened due to vax side effects? There’s no question that there has been some, just how much. It would seem that in order to do an honest comparison ie: risk-benefit, and that would require knowing how many military members have had reactions to the vax, how severe they were, and how much time was lost because of it.

SFC D

It took as long as it because it is illegal to require a service member to take an experimental vaccine. It became mandatory after full approval. As an expert in all things military and COVID, you should know this. You didn’t. Because you are a fraud.

Commissar

Your statement is false. All of it.

The informed consent requirement can be waived for national security reasons. Biden needed have merely signed an executive order declaring that vaccinating troops was necessary for national security.

He chose not to.

And you know my full name. You could verify my service yourself.

But you know it has already been verified.

Calling me a fraud is bullshit and you know it. And if you had any integrity you would stop doing it.

NHSparky

46 out of 1.6 MILLION.

Thanks for putting that into perspective.

Now tell us how many died in:
–Training accidents
–Vehicle crashes
–Suicide
–Alcohol poisoning

Then take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.

Ex-PH2

It’s already being done in some states, Skivvy Stacker, including mine and my sister’s states.

Commissar

No, it hasn’t been. No, it wasn’t. No, it isn’t being done.

Some states are making it a requirement to do certain jobs or enter certain places.

A Proud Infidel®™

Izzat so, Francis Fudpuckle? HEY, I think I’ve found the right kid-friendly/safe for work name to give the character I’m patterning after you in my story line, Major Moonbat!

NHSparky

Required to perform certain tasks or enter certain (PUBLIC) spaces.

There’s a word for that, isn’t there? No, wait–don’t tell me! It’s right on the tip of my tongue!

Oh, yeah! IT’S A FUCKING MANDATE!

Commie-Tsar

GET THE JAB!!! IT’S TEH COVID, YOU FILTHY PROLES!!!

Hatchet

FUCK OFF, STUNT CUNT.

The Stranger

You know that’s a spoof account, right?🤣

Commissar

No. He is actually dumber than Infidel.

Which seemed impossible until he consistently proved it.

A Proud Infidel®™

Apparently I’m far from being the only one here that lives rent-free inside your head, Major Moonbat! 👌

Roh-Dog

I hope the shots cause you to grow that real vagina you so desperately want.

You’re a very confused… lass.

HMCS(FMF) ret

If you read the article, they OK’d the booster for the Pfizer vaccine, not Modera? Something is telling me that the Pfizer vax isn’t all that it should be…

LC

I believe this is simply because the Pfizer one is still the only vaccine fully FDA approved, vs EUA-approved.

That said, the Pfizer one is still pretty good, and early on looked like the best one against the original strain. But yes, Moderna looks a bit stronger against the ‘delta’ one, which is now dominant here.

Roh-Dog

No one has access to the “FDA approved” medical procedure. They are still hold-harmless under the illegal EUA-status thanks to fucklehead DJT via “Warpped Sped” and our current usurper-in-chief.

The efficacy of all the shots drops to zero within about 180 days.

The math has been clear since December.

Fuck off

Mason

This is in part due to the Pfizer vaccine having drastically reduced efficacy after 120 days. By the latest CDC data, it’s the worst of the three vaccines.

Fyrfighter

Since someone brought up elsewhere in the thread that other vaccines also require boosters, it seems fair to point out that while that is true, it’s generally years-decades after the initial shot, not just a couple months..

nobunny

Excellent point. Not all viruses/vaccines are equal. Yes, we have vaccines that work very well for polio, measles, mumps, rubella, et al. They confer immunity for years. But that’s not true for influenza or coronavirus. The Google knows why this is so. You don’t have to dig deep.

NHSparky

About the only ones I can recall lately are Hepatitis A-B.

Maybe some of the childhood vaccinations require boosters, but it’s been a while.

Tetanus is like 10 years, and the only reason I get that is because my working conditions.

nobunny

Here’s my two cents worth:

There is no “defeating” or eliminating Covid. Politicians and physicians are lying their asses off when they say stuff like that. Covid will never be gone. It’s here and with us forever.

Herd immunity? Probably won’t happen. Why? Viruses – especially RNA viruses – are sloppy and mutate. They’re shape shifters. Make a vaccine today, 6 months later it’s completely ineffective. Do we have herd immunity to the flu viruses or cold viruses? ~20% of common colds are caused by a Coronavirus.

You want a vaccine – go get one! If you have a comorbid condition, you need to try. But know it’s just an attempt.

I have family members with serious medical problems who had (symptomatic) Covid last year, got the vaccines, and recently got symptomatic Covid again. How many times do you want to ramp up your immune system with a vaccine or booster?

Commisar, it sounds like you have an autoimmune problem. You know better than anyone an overactive immune system is a very bad thing.

Do what you can, accept this is now normal, and get on with life. Just my view.

Fyrfighter

” How many times do you want to ramp up your immune system with a vaccine or booster?”

There’s another concern, what kind of increase in auto-immune diseases are we gonna see in a year.. In five?

nobunny

Yes, exactly. Your immune system will kill you in very creative ways.

Poetrooper

And very unpleasant ways.

When young Poe worked for big pharma, he received training in immune responses and remembers well the physician instructor’s slides of folks in anaphylactic shock.

It is is not a pretty picture…

Hatchet

Similarly experienced. And it’s most definitely NOT pretty. Especially when the attending physician has to explain to surviving family members that it was actually the ‘treatment’ that killed the patient and not the ‘disease’.

Ex-PH2

You are correct, no bunny. This “bug” has the ability to shift its antigens as needed, exactly the way the influenza viruses do, and adapt to a new “environment”.

The real problem is the bad reactions some people are having to the vaxxes. I have not had a problem with mine, and the booster for my choice is not available yet, and ditto the seasonal flu shot.

But how would you like to be told that your smallpox vaxx has to be renewed because The Pox has risen from its grave AGAIN??? It can happen.

nobunny

Oh for sure, there’s a litany of problems. It’s difficult to know where to start.

The vaccine reactions concern me very much. I have a complex medical history, and tend to be the 1%… in a bad way.

If smallpox comes swinging around I’m in trouble. Missed it by a year.

Fyrfighter

My crew has responded to dozens of calls for people having post-Vaxx reactions.. to put that in perspective, we’ve run about the same number of covid cases. So it seems to me that if we need to be concerned about the number of covid cases, we should be just as concerned about another source of similar numbers.

Roh-Dog

All of the western world is taking a big ol’ streamy shit all over itself and you have self-styled big-brains pretending the dictionary has fluid definitions of very technical words….

Yeah.

That’s where we is.

Liberty and HONEST debate SHOULD be in the forefront of EVERYONE’S MIND, ALL THE TIME.

Anyone that deviates from this course, and moves to restrict the right of the individual to dissent against Power is the enemy of all men. Full stop.

Yet,

-Australia has concentration camps and is arresting those who DARE to organize against government overreach.

-Germany looks to change the status of Telegram in order to censor vaxxine information that differs from the state/corporate narrative.

-Canada shutdown churches, businesses, private schools as late as this Spring! Now they’re talking about internal passports to confirm “compliance”

-Do I have to begin about the Disinformation Operations that have been used here in the Good Ol’ U.S. of A? The one that pains me the most, Ivermectin. It’s been used for decades. It’s safe. According to India, it works as a prophylactic against the Chicomm Cold-19.

If this is true, it will dis-allow the EUA for this stupid not-a-vaxx.

This has not-a-fuck-thing to do with health. This is about money. This is about power. This is about control.

You can paint this rant however you’d wish. But history and God will judge in the end.

We are loosing the very thing that makes life worth living, freedom. All for a cold that kills fatties and the diseased at a general rate of less than one in a thousand.

So we torture our kids, all day, 5 days a week.

Fuck you for being a pussy. I’m living my life. You small souled fucks can kiss my ass.

Roh-Dog

Just so we’re all aware, you may not explicitly receive a GCI shot but that doesn’t mean it won’t effect you. Vaccine/vaxxine ‘spill’ is a thing. Gattaca, here we come!

The last paragraph is the take away, they don’t care about the long term. They know gooder.
https://www.jpost.com/international/could-dna-vaccines-be-the-next-tool-in-the-worlds-battle-against-covid-19-680371

Ex-PH2

Y’know, these people are starting to worry me. Stephen King’s novel “The Stand” was published in the mid-1970s. UK TV show “Survivors” was about the same thing, how the bug was not only lethal but got loose in the population.

It’s not nice to mess with Mother Nature, yet here we are, doing exactly that.

Commissar

Fuck off with your “freedom” bullshit.

You never whined about required vaccines in the past. And you received multiple mandated vaccines in you life.

And you never whined about being forced to wear clothes in public, or shoes and shirt in restaurants, or cover your bare ass in a plane or any other public health mandate.

But a mask during a pandemic is some sort oppression in your mind.

It is fucking nonsense.

You are just triggered by a bunch of propaganda telling you to outraged about masks and vaccines,

Like a soft minded and obedient cultist you chanted the mantra without in regard for the hypocrisy of it all.

Wearing masks and getting vaccinated is to stop the impact of a pandemic on our nation.

Basic civic conscientiousness is all that was asked of you.

But even that is too much for self absorbed snowflakes that whine about masks,

Roh-Dog

“Fuck off with your “freedom” bullshit” -and this is why your an embarrassment to your oath and an enemy to all Americans (vs residence of the USA) kill yourself. “You never whined about required vaccines in the past. And you received multiple mandated vaccines in you life.” -Yeah. I did. And I was injured. And they are mostly bullshit. SCIENCE! “And you never whined about being forced to wear clothes in public, or shoes and shirt in restaurants, or cover your bare ass in a plane or any other public health mandate.” -You don’t KNOW ME, MAN! “But a mask during a pandemic is some sort oppression in your mind.” -Yes. Do you have a point, or….? “It is fucking nonsense.” -the fact you keep wasting oxygen that a chinaman or Haitian could be breathing, is. nonsense. kill yourself. “You are just triggered by a bunch of propaganda telling you to outraged about masks and vaccines,” -I don’t give a flying FUCK what YOU do. Seriously. But once it effects; me, others, children or farm animals.. WE HAVE PROBLEM. Again, kill yourself. “Like a soft minded and obedient cultist you chanted the mantra without in regard for the hypocrisy of it all.” -hypocrisy? Like telling you to leave me the fuck alone? That’s hypocrisy now? Seriously? I am confussion. Could you explain how wanting to be left the fuck alone is a cult? How wanting others to be left alone, fuck that, DEMANDING others be left alone, is a cult? It’s kinda like, liberalism. Which had been a good thing until you commie shitstain statists perverted society. I dare say you’re the hypocrite. Maybe, spitballing here, you should, I don’t know, maybe, kill yourself? Or, how about YOU come FUCKING MAKE ME put on a mask? I will save the date. I’ll even show up, unarmed, naked with a lite coat of oil and we can man-dance. Bitch. You’se a bitch. Kill yourself. “Wearing masks and getting vaccinated is to stop the impact of a pandemic on our nation.” -You got some evidence for that claim or…. “Basic civic conscientiousness… Read more »

Hatchet

So other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln..?

Jay

I’m built, and HAVE been built like a tank my entire damn life. Good immune system (the way God intended) and high level of physical fitness.

I have not and WILL not receive either the initial dose OR a booster of the Co-Vax shot. I don’t get flu shots, and I won’t get this either.

“But…but…but….it’s not about YOU, it’s about other PEOPLE!!!” Fine. If you’re concerned, get the shot. However, if I wind up catching cardiomyopathy, hypotension, blood clots, or some of the other numerous side effects springing up and DYING from one of those? Well, then it DOES become about me….because now my family has to deal with that…and the loss of my income. So…nah.