Body camera video on Caron Nazario’s traffic stop

| April 15, 2021

Caron Nazario traffic stop. (The Virginian-Pilot)

Here is a video from the body camera worn by one of the officers. The video, as well as the police report, detail the sequence of events related to that stop. At one point, the police officer asks him if he is a corporal or a specialist. This is based on the actions that Nazario took during the stop.

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Hate_me

Since when is being mistaken for a corporal or specialist an insult?

I’m several grades above them, now, but a corporal speaks with the same designated authority as I do; and I’ve both worked with and learned from some damn good Specialists over the years.

Any officer who feels he is inherently better than his junior soldiers deserves not his commission.

Commissar

It is not an insult.

That is media spin claiming it is.

Though it demonstrates a possible subconscious bias on the part of the officer.

Hate_me

Pretty sure it was the LT who initially conveyed a sense of offense at this.

Sapper3307

With his age & attitude it was a safe assumption that the guy a career Specialist.

Anonymous

I asked a GS civilian if he’d retired from the Army as a SP4 because of his aversion to thinking and leadership responsibility once. Age doesn’t guarantee wisdom.

5JC

You cant see his rank the belt covers it.

Commissar

I could break down this entire video and in detail why so many of you are entirely missing the point while fixated on your pathological need to have people be “obedient”…

But I would get the same bullshit responses whether I took the time to explain it or not.

This cop was wrong. He was fired. The lawsuit will be settled for close to six figured.

The lieutenant conducted himself mostly appropriately.

The stop was reasonable but the interaction form the moment the officers exited their vehicle was incompetence and clownish abuse of authority.

It says something that the SMA had to put out a statement defending this soldier because of minions like so many of you trying to tear a soldier down and blame him for the actions of an incompetent police officer.

SFC D

The SMA should have not put out any statement on this. It’s way out of his lane and could be construed as undue command influence. I’m not about to defend any of the police officers. But if you believe this 2LT acted appropriately, then we have yet another reason to question YOUR efficacy and and professionalism as a commissioned officer. There’s never been much doubt on that subject though. You’re a fraud.

Commissar

He had to put out a statement because so many people were attacking this soldier from the right.

SFC D

The SMA escalated the situation by getting involved and putting out a comment. Much the same way your lord and master did with “The police acted stupidly” and “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon”. You’re a fraud.

MarineDad61

Commissar,
Let us know the next time YOU act “mostly appropriately”,
with your mouth, logic, rights, and other blather,
when YOU are pulled over for something simple,
BEFORE YOU decide to resort to trying to run away, drive off, punch a cop, wield a knife, or come out shooting.

Ridiculous for you?
No, because that’s exactly what police have been putting up with for 60+ years,
and it’s not always racial.
And it’s getting worse,
since the media now empowers the criminals.

Police don’t know you from spit,
but they can dig up your rap sheets,
and react to your defiance, mannerisms, and threats.

Watch more reruns of COPS.
Listen to Chris Rock.
And grow the F up.

Commissar

Piss off with that bullshit.

I was a cop.

This guy did not have a “wrap” sheet. He had a pattern of traffic violations.

Something these officers did not know about during this interaction because they had not even identified the driver of the vehicle.

SFC D

You weren’t a cop. You tried to be a cop and failed. It’s a pattern for you. You’re a fraud.

Skyjumper

Now, now, SFC D.
Here’s picture proof of our resident self-proclaimed “war hero” here on the interweb thingy. (grin)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5XS9rHJOZog/TZodUU-zssI/AAAAAAAADVw/vX3Jo1lX3Zw/s320/Gumby+Policeman.jpg

UpNorth

100% correct, SFC D. The klown known as Kommisar likely never made it past probation, or did and after his higher-ups observed him after training, made it known to him that his career interests rested somewhere other than law enforcement.

penguinman000

They couldn’t identify him because he failed to stop when they activated their emergency lights. Something the law requires here in VA.

Something he clearly did almost a dozen times prior to this interaction (in that same region) over the last few years.

Oh yea, lets not forget he had been previously cited for a similar license plate infraction and for the tint on his windows. So he clearly knew not displaying tags properly and having windows tinted too dark was in violation of traffic code. We wouldn’t expect our leaders to actually learn from their experiences, would we?

Officer Guitierrez acted unprofessionally and in violation of department policy. He has suffered the consequences for it.

LT dumbass, on the other hand, acted stupidly, put himself/others at risk needlessly, and is being rewarded by the SMA singing his praises while his lawyer is accepting donations for him.

You do realize citizens have direct role in the outcome of interaction with law enforcement, right? Something you should know if you ever actually served as a cop.

5JC

It’s not “wrap” dumbass. It’s RAP, Record of Arrest and Prosecutions. So from your lengthy experience as a “cop”, why not tell us how you handle a non-complaint person who is detained?

Hack Stone

Thanks. Learned a new acronym today. His wrap sheet is 50″ of Reynolds Aluminum Foil.

Penguinman000

Puppy dogs, rainbows and happy words is how der dumbcopf would handle non compliant folks.

Because saying pretty please with sugar on top are the magic words to gain compliance to lawful orders.

He’s an idiot who has no real world experience and has foresaken the oath he swore to uphold. He’s a turf not worthy of engagement.

If you aren’t careful he’ll threaten you with his “street cred” of living in a $180k house in the hood.

I’ve also offered to beat the brakes off of him a public venue with the proceeds going to a charity of our own choice.

Surprise, he doesn’t have the strength of his convictions.

timactual

“I was a cop.”

Then you should know how to spell ‘rap sheet’.

I’ve known some ex-cops, myself. Not necessarily something to brag about.

Anonymous

Methinks probie didn’t make it for a reason.

A Proud Infidel®™

The more he runs his mouth about being a former LEO, the more firmly I get convinced of that, I’m betting that he also said or did something to embarrass the hell out of whatever Department he was part of!

Penguinman000

Typically people who refer to themselves as “ex-cops” didn’t leave the profession in good standing.

31B SFC

You missed something in between here Commissar, the failure to comply from the get go….the LT acting like a private and not complying does not sit well and from his prior traffic record it looks like he was trying to hit the ghetto lottery. Only when shit got serious did he victim up …not the kind of an example that a commissioned officer should setting…and before you try to give me a smart ass insulting reply, with your so called superior intelligence, here’s a big go fuck yourself in advance

Commissar

I find it astonishing you were not embarrassed to post that bullshit.

Sapper3307

Yur moms called, bring some juice boxes to their bedroom.

Ret_25X

I find it astonishing you can dress yourself, but that is a different issue entirely.

Clearly you need to go back to elementary school and learn reading again.

His post is spot on, if salty.

It IS a mark of low culture to get pissed when you percieve “disrespect” by others and act out on the immature and uncontrolled feelings from it.

Like yourself. That you think the refusal to accept racist narratives here is “from the right” shows your own low emotional and intellectual maturity.

The fact is that BOTH parties can be wrong. His race and rank do not provide him a natural “get out of jail free” card for his emotional and intellectual immaturity.

I admit that I can see how you would want to defend his behavior, as you have demonstrated the same here multiple times.

Your complete incapacity to think beyond your own false narrative severely decrements your potential. I would suggest you seek some to spend some time in serious introspection, but alas, the dishonest are natively incapable of it.

Anonymous

Look who’s talking.

Slow Joe

That sounds familiar.

Isn’t that the name of some old movie or something?

Poetrooper

“I find it astonishing you were not embarrassed to post that bullshit.”

Ol’ Poe thinks that could pretty much be the standard response to 99.9% of your posts, Lars.

Perhaps we could just abbreviate it, IFIAYWNETPTB, rather than have to spell it out every time.

Poetrooper

The only one ol’ Poe has any real sympathy for is the poor, innocent pooch in the back choking on the pepper spray.

The way the Eltee keeps repetitiously asking “What’s going on? What did I do wrong?” reminds me of rowdy drunks we apprehended back in the day at Fort Campbell. The only ones who got written up were guess who? Yep, the ones who showed attitude. The rest were put in the back of our patrol vehicles (we used pickups with canvas-covered beds and benches) for a free ride back to their barracks.

As rgr769 mentioned the other day, there was one “demographic” that more frequently showed attitude, even when my patrol partner was one of their own. As a consequence, they received DR’s (Disciplinary Reports) and rides to the PMO (Provost Marshal’s Office) for booking somewhat more frequently, which I’m sure they interpreted as racism and not the result of their verbal and sometimes physical resistance.

And that was more than a half-century ago–so this business of frequent problematic encounters between cops and that “demographic” is nothing new.

timactual

“The way the Eltee keeps repetitiously asking “What’s going on? What did I do wrong?” ”

I still think he sounds like one of those “sovereign citizen bozos”, but he didn’t even do that right.

Roh-Dog

This habitual criminal got the response he wanted, nothing more.

Sapper3307

That tint works good, did anybody see a license plate?

5JC

You cant even see if there is a plate till they are about 15 feet away, then you cant read it.

Ex-PH2

There was an overwrought, heavily emoting article about how Nazario is being PICKED ON because he’s whatever the level of melanin is in his dermal cells, and he’s INNOCENT!!!!!, despite this NOT being his first rodeo with les gendarmes.

I’m waiting for the violent protests to erupt and city centers burned and looted all over again.

Dennis - not chevy

I had an A1C (E-3 for those scoring at home) administratively discharged because of a pattern of lapses in discipline which may lead to serious trouble. Don’t they do that anymore?
The Lt’s rap sheet seem to indicate a pattern of lapses in discipline.

SFC D

I don’t understand how the good lieutenant still had a driver’s license. I’ve seen revocation for a lot less than what this guy’s record reflects.

Quartermaster

The good LT should be chaptered, but since he is black, that is now nearly impossible. It would be raaaaacist.

QMC

“My mama says that stupid is as stupid does.”

– Forrest Gump

JTB

LOL@CommieLiars…

KoB

Welp, IMO the 2nd louie accomplished his mission. He hit the lottery as the city will pay him off and the new regime will fast track him to a higher rank. The Army seems to be looking for officers of this type.

I repeat…PHUQUE HEEM!

Slow Joe

How can it be teh racyss when the dark tinted window do not let the cops look inside the vehicle?

Did the cops have xray vision to see the 2LT ethnic make up but not his paper license plate?

MI Ranger

Wow, from everything the media (including conservative media) had said, this was a case of of over reach and racist behavior by the two officers. While the senior officer (I presume by the way he is instructing the other officer) is a little confrontational, I can definitely understand it from the point of view of a vehicle with no plates and very dark tint. The Army Officer’s initial comments indicate his “barracks lawyer” attitude which only made the officer’s comments more justified.
When he claimed he did not have to exit the vehicle for a traffic stop, it really showed his ignorance, though the officer was a little amped on adrenalin and could not communicate clearly that he was being detained for resisting arrest and failure to obey lawful commands.
I do agree that any statements by his Commanding Officer seem unjustified other than answering direct questions about his service.

And yes, in reaction to the Police Officer’s question of is he a Specialist or Corporal, it may have to do with unfamiliarity with ranks (or it covered by seat belt, but I doubt he was taking the time to look at his rank) and mostly to do with the “barracks lawyer” (similar to “Sovereign Citizen” arguments I have seen) speak about not being required to exit the vehicle!