General Milley drops 15 megaton truth bomb

| December 3, 2020

US Army General Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the country’s highest ranked military officer has just spoke to our efforts in Afghanistan.

“We believe now that after 20 years, two decades of consistent effort, that we he have achieved a modicum of success,” he said.

Boom! What a honest assessment of what has transpired there after 19 years and counting of effort. A modicum, defined by Oxford as “a small quantity of a particular thing, especially something considered desirable or valuable.” There you go. We’ve secured a small quantity of success. At the cost of about $1 Trillion, more than 2,300 American lives, and thousands more injured. Let’s pat each other on the backs. Where’s that Mission Accomplished banner when you need it?

Thanks for the story tip goes to Jeff LPH 3

Source; Military Times

Category: Afghanistan, Big Pentagon, Foreign Policy, Guest Link

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5th/77th FA

The “modicum” of success will be when we are completely out of that Tar Baby.

Anonymous

The boy-lovin’ locals can go back to shooting only each other.

Sapper3307

“A modicum of respect” HALO 5.
https://youtu.be/M0YkQ4YKOSw

FuzeVT

So when you try to recreate the statue of David with a big pile of shit as your medium you still just end up with a pile of shit? Who knew?

FuzeVT

Is “modicum of success” sort of like “Mostly Peaceful”?

Hindenburg passengers enjoy a cross-Atlantic trip that enjoyed a modicum of success.

KoB

“Titanic passengers enjoy a cross-Atlantic trip…”

Casey Jones’ passengers enjoyed a train ride that had a modicum of success.

Amelia Earhart took a round the world plane trip that had a modicum of success.

See where I’m going with this?

SFC D

As a sport pilot, Bernath had a modicum of success.

Anonymous

Don’t forget, as transatlantic passenger service, the Hindenburg had a modicum of success.

KoB

Just like Bernasty’s their flight was not bad. It was when it came time to land that the modicum of success went to sh^t…or in his case…to the pines.

Fortunately, Bernasty has had more than a modicum of success in maintaining his minus 6 feet of AGL altitude AND his social distancing.

SFC D

He finally excelled at something besides douchebaggery.

rgr769

With regard to that last flight, his only modicum of success was limited to the takeoff.

penguinman000

Maybe one day we’ll finally grasp that the Marshall plan success doesn’t translate to nation building anywhere. The policy of “exporting democracy” and thinking it will all work out everywhere is not a good idea either. It’s almost as if our big picture planners/leaders never learned the lesson that human beings throughout history have consistently chosen despots, monarchs, etc.. as forms of government. Democracy, as we know it today, is a blip on the radar.… Read more »

penguinman000

Correction, anywhere should’ve been everywhere.

FuzeVT

►Maybe one day we’ll finally grasp that the Marshall plan success doesn’t translate to nation building anywhere. Indeed. Expecting democratic styles of governance to take root with equal success in any country is like thinking men and women are the exact same. There are differences that are plain to most, but never those experts who CHOOSE not to see the difference. It would seem that democracies take root pretty well with Europeans. I would suppose… Read more »

11B-Mailclerk

On the other hand, where did Communism and it’s bastard stepchildren originate?

FuzeVT

Fair, but where did it really take hold? The poor Russians went from being ignored by their Czar to being never left alone by the Soviets. No wonder their so pessimistic. As for Asian Communism, not sure why it really took hold there other than they are just receptive to anything. I guess anywhere a strongman figures out he can live a life of luxury “taking care” of his comrades, he’s going to give it… Read more »

FuzeVT

“No wonder their so pessimistic”

*They’re

*(or perhaps) No wonder their ATTITUDES ARE so pessimistic

Pick a correction

11B-Mailclerk

The only reason Europe didn’t go communist, is the USA. Also why theories crashed and burned.

So pale genetics isn’t the issue. They are paler than us.

Much paler.

11B-Mailclerk

Whaaaat? “Theories” ?

“The Soviet Union”

I am quite able to make my own typos, thank you. I really don’t need Auto-corrupt.

I suspect the Babel project was sundered by sudden arrival of spell-check.

5JC

Next will be fact checker. It will automatically remove anything a random Google editor thinks is untrue.

MI Ranger

Maybe one day we’ll finally grasp that the Marshall plan success doesn’t translate to nation building anywhere. – First you have to completely strip the old system away. If you build a solid house on a weak foundation you still end up with a crumbling house…just not as soon. We need to stay long enough for the Taliban and the GOA to decide (on paper) how to divide up the country. Of course NATO will… Read more »

Penguinman000

Pashtunwali is still very much alive and present as a cultural norm there. American style democracy will never work in Afghanistan as long as their current belief system/social norms remain the same.

And since we aren’t willing to go to the lengths necessary to force cultural change, there is nothing more productive to be gained for anyone by us remaining there.

26Limabeans

He was being kind.

Anonymous

Gotta make it sound positive as a general, you know…

Thunderstixx

I doubt that the souls of those lost over there in that mess through the years will agree with his opinion.
Like young Adam Wolff, KIA 6-20-2014, Helmand Province Afghanistan.
Godspeed to all those that gave their lives for the rest of us…..

Thunderstixx

5th/77th FA

Just had to stir up them dust bunnies, didn’t ya ‘stixx? “…lest we forget!”

God’s Blessing continue to bring Comfort to the Gold Star Families. There, but for His Grace, go any and.or all of us.

MustangCryppie

A modicum of success that will vanish as soon as we leave.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

If by modicum of success you mean now negotiating with the very people you tried to wipe out to place them back in a position to retain some power and authority, then sure that was “achieved”…

Now do Iraq…or Yemen, or Syria, or Pakistan or any of the other nations in which we retain troops in Africa and let us know General what you think success looks like in any of those nations.

Penguinman000

If you arent willing to kill everyone, from babe to old woman, you have to talk at some point.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

True statement, that being the case 19 years later seems a bit of a long time to come around to that simple true statement. Only an idiot would think that Afghans were going to become a freedom loving democratic republic. As we knew that reality going in the plan should have been built around that knowledge instead of being a fudge it as we go operational plan. We lack the will of Rome when their… Read more »

5JC

The people we tried to wipe out are pretty much all dead now. There is a whole new crop of people that hate us because we aren’t like them. Talking to them is no good. Can’t talk to someone who only wants you to leave so they can go back to doing what they were doing when you aren’t there to make them stop.

penguinman000

I don’t mean to be offensive, but your line of reasoning reflects the poor decision making of our previous administrations.

Others don’t think, act or believe like us. Why should we expect them to react the way we would when we intervene?

penguinman000

No argument from me that we’ve been slow to pick up that message. I was probably slower than most since I spent time there and in Iraq over a few deployments. What frustrates me is the pointy end of our national policy seems to willfully ignore our recent failures/issues. We went into Iraq without a defined end state. Then we said “No more Baathist”. We threw out everyone who knew how to run a functioning… Read more »

Slow Joe

Modicum of success is General Officer speak for defeat.
They are in a political position after all.

Martinjmpr

Military force is a tool and like all tools, it’s only good for certain things. You can’t pound in a screw with a hammer, you can’t drill a hole with a band saw, etc. As I said in the other thread, anything we achieved in Afghanistan, we achieved in the first couple of years. After that, the things we wanted to have happen (a liberalized or at least stable government) are not things that military… Read more »

Malise

The Romans had a way of dealing with the Commander claiming a “modicum of success”. The Commander received the thanks of the Senate and then, was sent off to Fall on his Sword. This statement is so weak, pitiful, bureaucratic, and sad. Really a whine. One would expect a French general to say it after the Fall of Sedan/Paris in 1870. What a Debacle.

Name changed to protect PII.
AW1

Poetrooper

“The graveyard of empires…”

A Proud Infidel®™️

Just ask the French, British and Russians!

NHSparky

And Gengis Khan, Alexander the Great, et al.

PFM

Reminds me of watching ISIS take Mosul ten years after my battalion left. 7 dead for no reason. Good to see that my old stomping grounds in Zabul province have become Taliban strongholds. Don’t care what the CoS call it, just get the hell out already.

AW1Ed

I believe this is the TAH consensus. It may have taken some a bit longer to arrive, but here we are.

With this in mind, remember Biden is batting 1000 in bad foreign policy calls, and has for nearly 50 years.

Veritas Omnia Vincit

He’s yet to meet a war he didn’t like…

NHSparky

But did his damndest to keep Vietnamese refugees out of the US.

Gee, I wonder why?

rgr769

Because he has been an effing POS his entire adult life. The only person Gropey Joe cares about is himself.

Green Thumb

Maybe some of this had to do with Milley and others trashing the Army’s standards…?

martinjmpr

Speaking of dropping bombs, Maybe it’s time to stop messing around and send the Party Posse: