Oh, Frack It!

| October 24, 2020

Swampland at sunrise

This comes on the heels of Joe Biden’s brain fart when he says he will shut down (not would) all oil and fossil fuel production and  power plants that are NOT wind/solar “renewables” (they aren’t renewable at all, nor are they disposable or recyclable). Kamala Harris has taken up the task of “splaining the misunderstanding” (even though he said it in plain English, live on TV).

From the AP article: The exchange was lively, but what was even more interesting is what happened next. Perhaps sensing an advantage, Trump challenged Biden with a simple question.

“Would you close down the oil industry?” the president asked.

Biden, normally a disciplined speaker, took the bait.

“I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” Biden said. – article

And then, when caught pants down, he waffles, tries to backtrack, and ends up with Harris ‘splaining things to people.

The videos speak for themselves. He is nothing but (and she, too) a lying sack of toad-in-the-road politician.


While Biden referred to it as “transitioning”, he has already said several times, in plain English, that he will shut down fracking.

He challenged Trump to prove that he had said ‘close down the oil industry, fracking, fossil fuels’ and Trump did so.  Here’s that demand from the debate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUFwpNv3JhI

Here is a video compilation of Joe Biden saying he will end fracking and end the petroleum industry in this country.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx7HMYf41SY

Someone asked if this has anything to do with Jr.’s dealings with Burisma. Logical question, and it is certainly worth asking. But Ukraine has had some serious financial issues and was probably trying to get into the pockets of someone who might be connected to US government money, through his old man. They did not realize that Jr. is a waste of skin and time.  They should have held onto their money.

Category: "The Floggings Will Continue Until Morale Improves", 2020 Election, Biden

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  1. Combat Historian says:

    Kamala the WOC as janitoress cleaning up the pasty old white male’s logorrhea drool…man, that’s racist AND sexist…

  2. rgr769 says:

    There is a great breakdown of the 32 lies Biden told in the debate. It is up at PJMedia along with proof of their falsity.

  3. Skippy says:

    Well the lame stream media isn’t hiding the fact
    That they are providing cover for all of his F-ups
    Hell Fox News is even saying hunters laptop
    Should be taken as suspect and has not been verified… As of yesterday
    This is amazing what’s playing out right now
    My wife has a friend writing a book right now
    Detailing how Trump will lose this election
    And the corruption in DC and the amount of Chinese money flowing around the DNC
    And a few republicans who have received
    Money from suspect sources
    A 1000 bucks says nothing gets done if
    Trump wins re-election..
    it’s going to cost him dearly too win or lose


  4. Devtun says:

    Plugs will let you know if he is for or against court fracking after he takes office. OK, you lying dog faced pony soldiers, Uncle Joe is getting sleepy, and calling a lid after a whole 2 hr workday.

    • rgr769 says:

      Joe’s latest PA event (today) was mostly Jill talking and was attended only by people in their cars, but there was no video showing the number of cars present in the “drive-in” rally.

      • Claw says:

        Some of the news outlets are saying that about 130 cars showed up for Joe, but an equal number or more showed up in an adjacent parking lot rooting/honking for Trump./s

        Joe called them Chumps for showing up and drowning him out.

      • A Proud Infidel®™ says:

        Hell, President Trump draws standing room only crowds of thousands wherever he appears while Biden can’t even halfway fill even a small high school gym or cafeteria!

      • OWB says:

        Watched most of the Biden rally. It was odd, to say the least. The visual of a lone speaker all masked up was laughable.

        When a camera panned the “crowd” it looked like maybe a dozen or so cars – just about how many it took to transport the number of speakers at the rally.

      • Mason says:

        Buddy of mine sent me a message. He was at a local grocery store today. Said there were a few small groups of people campaigning for Biden, had signs, handing out fliers. One dude with a big ass TRUMP sign showed up and Biden’s supporters took a cue from Hidin’ Biden himself and scattered like the roaches Biden learned about while letting little kids play with his real hairy legs.

        • A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

          There was a Trump Boat Parade near where I live that has at least 250-300 boats that stretched a good distance and the next day there were MAYBE about a dozen Bidenites waving signs and banners and most of them looked like they came from a Halfway House to do so! They were greeted by shouts of “Four more years” as well.

      • 11B-Mailclerk says:

        At a Biden rally, do they clean the headstones?

  5. Commissar says:


    undergo or cause to undergo a process or period of transition.
    “the network ought to be built by the federal government and then transitioned into private industry”

    The majority of Americans support transitioning away from fossil fuels.

    It is a popular position.

    It is also something we should have prioritized decades ago for national security reasons alone.

    • Commissar says:

      all the climate denier fossil fuel propaganda vomit spewed forth in 3..2..1..

      • SFC D says:

        Stop worshiping at the altar of zero net energy. It’s a false idol sitting on a throne of lies. I’m all in favor of reducing the use is fossil fuels, but it’s pure folly to believe they can be eliminated. But then again, you’re practiced in living in a fantasy world. You’re a fraud.

        • rgr769 says:

          I was tempted to reply and tell the Marxist Mollusk to read Hondo’s analysis of why all-electric vehicles won’t really do anything to reduce the planet’s carbon footprint. But that would be a wasted effort give his lack of reading comprehension and that mollusk brain power.

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        Just curious, Taylor: which do you prefer?

        The low-yield emissions of fuel-efficient engines?

        Or the smell of horse manure on your shoes every time you cross the street?

        In fact, even racing cars (which are not fuel-efficient at all, but don’t burn ordinary gasoline) are rather low in emissions, depending on the type of fuel used. For example: NASCAR engines burn 110-octane leaded gasoline. Indy cars burn pure methanol (a.k.a. wood alcohol, CH3OH). Top Fuel dragsters and funny cars burn nitromethane (CH3NO2).

        Horses and mules, on the other hands, consume oats (and corn in the winter) and when that grain (plus hay) is digested, they expel it as horse manure, which is a rich source of soil nutrients. Going back to horses/mules as transportation will require a massive uptick in the volume of grain crops produced here, never mind increasing the acreage required to produce hay, as well as increasing wheat and oat straw for stable bedding.

        In addition, a single horse in a 4-horse draft team will require at least 15 pounds of hay per day and at least 10 pounds of grain, just to maintain muscle mass and body weight.

        The difference between horses and automotive vehicles is that horses require stabling, blacksmiths, constant care when not in use, and a way to dispose of the horse manure, whereas cars and pickup trucks can just sit idle at the curb and wait until the next time someone wants to go some place.

        Horses are far more high maintenance than automotive vehicles, and have a shorter span of usefulness as a working animal.

        The only other way to really go GREEN is to give up your vehicle and walk. Get those shoes resoled while you have a chance, so you don’t wear them out too soon.

        Returning to those quaint Days of Yore may also require the conversion of bathroom fixtures such as commodes to what are politely referred to as slop jars. Outhouses were also a thing.

        That’s what a world truly deprived of fossil fuels comes down to. You either give it all up like a good little boy, you shut your idiotic yap about it.

      • George V says:

        I will ask my standard question once again – will all the residents of the northern tier of states be forced to rip out their natural gas, propane, or oil fired furnaces and replace them with heat pumps and electric resistance heat used when outside air temps prevent heat pumps from working?

        • Ex-PH2 says:

          Who is going to pay for it? NOT ME. Period.

        • NHSparky says:

          Even heat pumps have a bit of an issue when outside temps hit around +5 F.

          And electric? At 18 cents per kWh? Consider 100 gallons of heating oil goes as far as 4000 kWh of electric heat, oil is $1.80/gal right now, so using electric heat would cost me (literally) 4x as much as oil.

          Yeah, that’ll go over real well when it hits -20 one of these mornings this winter.

    • Hondo says:

      Pacifism is in theory both a viable personal philosophy and national strategy. Hell, if everyone and every nation adopted it, there would be zero violence in the world.

      The only problem with pacifism is that it doesn’t work out so well in the real world. Neither does current allegedly “green” energy technology – which is in reality only available at around 15% of design output (on a 24 hr cycle) and is no where near benign in its environmental impact.

      Transitioning away from fossil fuels could be done. But thanks to anti-nuke enviro-whacko Luddites back in the 1970s, even today we refuse to implement the only currently-viable technology that offers a workable path to do so. If we started now, we’d need 40 to 50 years to implement everything required. And the cost would be fairly high – though nowhere near that of AOC’s patently absurd “Green New Deal”.

      Like it or not, we’re stuck with using fossil fuels for the rest of your lifetime, Commissar – and probably longer. Unless you want the world to go back to a circa-1600 subsistence-farming level of technology, that is – and by doing so, condemn about 6/7 of humanity to death from starvation and disease.

      • Anonymous says:

        As George Orwell said in World War II: “Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me’. The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security.”

      • Poetrooper says:

        Hondo, just out of curiosity, what do you think of abiotic hydrocarbons theory?

      • Fjardeson says:

        Hondo, 100% agree on nuclear. If it wasn’t for that damn movie that was released right alongside Three Mile Island, and the horribly inaccurate reporting of said nuclear event, we’d have nukes everywhere. And be telling Saudi Arabia inc. to shove it.

    • Hondo says:

      Oh, and regarding that “the public supports . . . . ” red herring you trot out above: that’s precisely what it is – a red herring. It falls in the “true but irrelevant” category, and is a clumsy attempt on your part to redirect the argument away from the real issue: whether abandoning fossil fuels given the current alternatives to using them is either (a) possible, or (b) good public policy.

      To state what should be obvious: public support does not automatically equate to “good public policy”. As I recall, the British public strongly supported Chamberlain’s Munich policy of appeasing Nazi Germany. That rather turned out poorly.

      • NHSparky says:

        It also shows yet again how woefully ignorant the majority of the populace is regarding technology, or anything outside their narrow worldview.

        Polls are no longer a gauge of public knowledge or opinion. They’ve morphed into a barometer of how well the indoctrination processes pushed by a particular entity are working.

    • Penguinman000 says:

      Since you’ve finally found a dictionary perhaps you can start by looking up the definition of defund. Or Unitarian in reference to our executive branch. Also look up despot. You’ll see those words all have definitions different than the propaganda you spew.

    • A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

      You’re more confused than the dyslexic Devil Worshiper who sold his Soul to Santa Claus! The windmills that you and your cult pimp to everyone are made using copious amounts of hydrocarbons, require lubricant, and have killed far more Birds than DDT! The blades on them are NOT recyclable, thus condemning them to landfills after they’re no longer useful and solar panels that contain toxic heavy metal compounds will also pollute landfills after they are used up.

      • 5JC says:

        Windmill blades are recycled into fiber board. Right now the capacity is low but it is growing. They are difficult to recycle but worth the effort.

        Wind turbines kill about 250k birds a year. House cats by comparison kill around 2.5 billion. Nobody knows exactly how many birds DDT killed before it was banned but it was estimated a lot more than 2.5 billion.

        Wind power has grown like crazy under Trump. In Texas 22% of electricty comes from wind. Nationally it grew from 4.7 in 2015 to 7.3 in 2019 a nearly 40% increase in four years. At current growth levels it will displace coal before 2025, in Texas it already has.

        Biden doesn’t have to do a thing to transition to wind power, it is already happening.

        • SFC D says:

          Is this recycling program economically feasible? What’s the carbon footprint of the recycling process? Are we spending a dollar to save a nickel?

          • 5JC says:

            It isn’t a program. Just a company that has a factory that takes blades (and other dense fiberglass products like watercraft hulls) and converts them in to pellets which are used to make fiber board.

            It is cost neutral. European counties are the big demand users. The government won’t let them dump the blades in the landfill. They are much more in to wind than the US. Ireland for example gets 85% of their electricity from wind, which is about the maximum you can supply to a grid.

          • 5JC says:

            BTW, Ireland doesn’t have rolling blackouts even with the vast majority of their power coming from wind. A properly designed power grid won’t.

            • Hondo says:

              If by “properly designed” you mean “has sufficient other sources of generation that can supply the full load required indefinitely”, yes. Otherwise, you’re betting on the weather.

              Last time I checked, betting on the weather was a good way to go broke in the long run.

              • 5JC says:

                Not so much generation as generation/ storage.

                I think relying on an island in the North Atlantic to be windy is a safe bet. There are other places like that as well. Wind power won’t solve every problem or even most power problems but where it works, it tends to work really well. Snubbing just because it is “green” and comes with a different problem set as petroleum based energy seems foolish to me.

                • Hondo says:

                  We don’t store generated electricity today because it’s neither economically nor technically feasible to do so on the scale required.

                  A reliable grid using storage and renewable energy would imply the ability to store at least 24 hours of demand, and probably far more than that, to allow for extended unusual weather events.

                  US electrical sales to end users in 2019 was approximately 3.811 billion megawatt-hours (MWh). (That doesn’t account for the average 5% lost in transmission.) The amount of electricity used daily (which is also the amount that would need to be stored) in order to provide one day of backup thus averages 10.441 million MWh daily. Since some days use far more electricity than others, let’s use 12 billion MWh as a daily planning factor for storage.

                  For large-scale electrical storage for later use, pumped hydro is likely the best current storage technology. The largest such operating facility in the world is the Bath County Pumped Storage Station. It can store a maximum of 24,000 MWh. And it’s also a net consumer of electricty; on average, for each kWh used in pumping you get back about 0.75 kWh when you reverse things and generate.

                  That means we’d need approximately 500 additional Bath County Pumped Storage Stations to buffer one day’s US electrical usage. We’d likely want to buffer at least 3 days storage, so that means we’d need around 1,500 such installations.

                  Pumped storage only works well where there are substantial elevation differences between upper and lower reservoirs as well as ample water to be used as a working fluid. Thus, locations would be restricted to mountainous areas having ample water supplies. This in turn means we’d lose far more power in transmission to the rest of the nation than the 5% average we do today. That means we’d probably need something like 2,000 such installations in the US.

                  Good luck with that. In fact, good luck with convincing the environmentalist community to support building even a few more such facilities. From the environmentalist’s perspective, such facilities “destroy the local environment” just like dams do.

                  And good luck with making enough high-capacity batteries to use battery-based storage any time soon, either. Or with mining the necessary materials to make them, even if production capacity existed for same.

                  Storage is indeed the “long pole” issue for transitioning to a grid powered largely by renewable energy sources. And it’s also not an issue we’ll see solved anytime soon. The technical hurdles to be cleared are simply too high.

                • Ex-PH2 says:

                  I think you’d need more than 2,000 facilities for storage, Hondo. You have to take into account not just day-to-day use, but also the extra storage needed to cover storm damaged facilities, which would be like the derecho that hit the Midwest this past summer.

                • Hondo says:

                  Addendum: for the record, I’m not anti-wind or anti-solar. Both have their place. Wind and/or solar can be a Godsend for remote installations requiring moderate amounts of power in remote locations. Properly engineered and utilized, they’re a part of the solution.

                  I’m also all for reducing the use of fossil fuels wherever possible. The only problem is that we’ve effectively ruled out using the only technically feasible solution to doing so today: nuclear power. Renewable sources simply “aren’t ready for prime-time” when prime time equates to a 4- or 5-nines reliable power grid available 24/7/365. And that’s what’s required.

                  Those talking about “replacing” fossil fuels with “renewable energy sources” generally don’t have a clue about the technical issues involved in producing 4- or 5-nines reliable power on a 24/7/365 basis – much less doing that in the quantity required, then distributing it over a wide geographical area. And anyone thinking we have anything resembling the technology needed to “produce electricity now and use it later” on the scale required for the US commercial power grid clearly doesn’t understand the technical issues involved in doing so.

        • Hondo says:

          I’d take that “has displaced coal” claim with a rather large grain of salt. Per this article, the fact that wind outproduced coal in Texas during the first half of the year is likely due to anomalously mild weather. Per the article, most of the coal-fired plants in Texas are used for peak load, and weather this year has meant far less peak demand than usual.


          The Wuhan coronavirus has also reduced peak load substantially in many areas.

          Wind is still far behind natural gas, which the article indicates produced 38% of Texas’ electricity this year. Natural gas is currently quite cheap; that (plus the fact that natural gas plants can be designed to operate combined-cycle and thus at much higher overall thermal efficiency than coal plants) has further cut the use of coal recently.

          Wind power is great – as long as the wind is blowing. But as California found out recently a prolonged calm spell can be a real problem for areas that are dependent on wind power for baseload generation.

    • OldManchu says:

      “The majority of Americans support transitioning away from fossil fuels”…..

      No they don’t. And you don’t either. Because you used fossil fuel all day long today and didn’t think twice about reducing your consumption. So stop talking shit that you don’t back up.

      Oh…. and don’t forget your precious mask.

      • David says:

        Hey, I’m all in favor of reducing fossil fuels! As well as getting fed ‘n f**ked ‘fore sundown, hitting the lottery, and peace in the Mideast. Same odds in the real world…sure, everyone wants it. Like honest politicians.

    • Skippy says:

      I support all the dead birds that windmills
      Produce out here in New Mexico and Texas
      Talk about green energy. Boy it stinks too
      We just finished doing a count here a month or so ago and 4000 plus dead rare birds is definitely green….

    • NHSparky says:

      And how many blackouts is CA looking at, genius?

      And when Diablo Canyon shuts down in 2025, and the last of the gas plants go away, you get the idea.

  6. KoB says:

    “c’mon man!” “Get the frackin’ shotgun while I sniff around a bit.” “Now you know why I picked Kamala for my running mate” “If you gonna do man ‘splainin’, you gotta have…well…a man!”

    Welp, creepy, gropey, dopey, oldy, moldy joe hasn’t made it to God’s Country yet. Heels Up made it to the ATL the other day and was feted at all of the usual suspect places of the whole Civil Rights Scam. Jill was in a bit back and is coming in again, in the local bigger city, this week upcoming. When The Donald was here last week, as I commented, there was standing room only inside the venue, and all the roads leading to it, the parking area, and the airport were packed. Donald Jr was here and had a good crowd too.

    All that being said, we will know for sure on Tuesday night week, that the fix is in, no winner will be announced because the ballots are still be counted, the machines are broken, or for…reasons. There is no matter what Joe says, or what is revealed, or any other “October Surprises” are out there. The out and out lying done by the Biden/Harris Camp on the Campaign Trial shows that they figure the election will be there one way or another. And on the off chance they don’t end up with the WH? We have 4 more years of the same crap we have been dealing with.

    • Anonymous says:

      Not to mention the Hunter Biden sex tape (1 of 4) released (see Gateway Pundit) today… he’s smoking crack while gettin’ a footjob, and the others a worse (language warning about commentary below):

  7. Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman says:

    It all comes down to energy density. What is there currently or on the horizon that is as energy dense as coal and the petroleum products? The only thing that may come close is nuclear, and it has its own set of problems.
    Renewables? HA! It is to laugh!

    • Hondo says:

      Actually, fissionable isotopes have a hugely higher energy density than any other energy source that (1) is known to mankind, and (2) we have the technology to use today.


      To put this in perspective: a 1,000 MWe nuclear power plant uses 27 tonnes of uranium; a fuel load usually lasts 1 1/2 to 2 years. In contrast, a 1,000 MWe coal-fired plant burns 2.5+ million tonnes of coal a year.


      A combined-cycle plant using natural gas as fuel would annually consume natural gas having the energy content of somewhat more than 1.5 million tons of coal to produce the same amount of electricity due to higher overall thermal efficiency (typically around 37% for coal-fired plants vice between 55% and 60% for combined-cycle plants). That’s still a sh!tload more fuel than a nuclear plant requires.

    • Ex-PH2 says:

      If the idjit, ignernt ecohippies ever get over the idea that nuclear reactors are a death sentence, when they aren’t, let me know, willya, Hondo?

      We could build many, many smaller power-generating reactors that serve a more local area and would/will be far more reliable than the daydreams of solar/windmill power, and FAR less destructive of wildlife that takes dangerous pests out of the environment.

      But this will upset the ecohippies because there have been ONLY TWO ADDITIONAL WHOLE bad accidents with reactors since 1979 (3 Mile Island) and only one (3MI) was here in the USA (3MI).

      Chernobyl (Ukraine) was operator error.

      The Fukushima reactor was located too close to the edge of the ocean and the operators didn’t react quickly enough to shut it down.

      Note that only 1 (ONE) of those happened here, and it was operator error. That was 1979’s 3 Mile Island reactor.

      To the north of me, a coal-fired plant was shuttered when a nuclear plant was put online and started up.

      The ecohippies are afraid of everything, period, which is why they get so frantic. I’d love to give them a real-time, real world experience in a cold, hostile climate to see if they can get through a few days of it, but they’d be begging to go home within 24 hours. They don’t want to be part of the natural world. They want to admire it from a distance, like some weird zoo animal exhibit.

      • A Proud Infidel®™️ says:

        The eco-kooks are also against Hydroelectric Power which also has zero emissions!

        • rgr769 says:

          I wish we could force all of them to live in a hovel in the woods and give them a couple of sticks to rub together to start a fire. I think it would be quite enlightening for them. I know living out of a rucksack for weeks on end in a SE Asian jungle is not much fun. Living without modern civilization and its amenities is an eye opener. I’d like to see any of these eco-freak, whiny bitches last a day as participants in “Naked and Afraid.”

      • Ex-PH2 says:

        That, API, is because they think all the running waters in the USofA are the habitat of bears who hang out at low waterfalls, waiting for salmon and trout to try to jump the outward flow so that they can move upstream and mate.

        These are also people who do not realize that a hungry bear will only view them as lunchmeat, and the fish are swimming upstream to lay eggs (spawn) and fertlize them, after which, they die.

        They also believe, as AW1Ed has pointed out elsewhere, that electricity comes out of the wall and therefore, power generating stations are not necessary. Food comes from ‘the store’ and clothing comes from a closet in the back of the clothing shop, or from an online closet when they order stuff online.

        • OldManchu says:

          Lol I’m dying here. But so true Ex… so true!

        • Ex--PH2 says:

          Ask one of them about it, if you can do so without falling down laughing.

          I did ask someone who live in my old apartment building if she knew where her food comes from. The puzzled look and then ‘Well, it comes from the store” were the best she could do. That was some time back.

          • SFC D says:

            My family told the story of teaching my older sister about where food comes from.
            Q: “where does milk come from?”
            A: “the milkman”
            Q: “where does he get it?
            A: (indignant response) “from his truck, of course!”

            In all fairness, it was 1955 and she was 5.

          • Ex-PH2 says:

            A milkman? Oh, we had that, too. I was so cool because he’d give us popsicles that he kept in his delivery truck, just in case there were kids around. Then the milkman days ended and everything started to come from the store.


            • David says:

              Or on a really hot day he would chip off a bit of ice for us to suck on. Bliss!

            • Claw says:

              You can still get the milkman (dairy/milk plant right on the edge of town since 1955) to come around here where I am. Of course their price of a gallon of milk is $5.25 versus $1.89 at WallyWorld./s

  8. 11B-Mailclerk says:

    What was Obama saying, something about underestimating Biden’s ability to screw up?

    Bragging about their voter fraud organization


    Too funny.


  9. MarineDad61 says:

    Jill and Joe Biden in Pennsylvania on Saturday, October 24:
    Hay bales.
    Hecklers, who are now referred to as “chumps”.
    On and on and on….. about dead son Beau Biden,
    while ignoring the white elephant of the Biden pumpkins,
    turd son Hunter Biden,
    the real son, and real family issue(s) over the last 5 years.

    • Mason says:

      39:07 or so. Biden runs just like a turkey.

      • MarineDad61 says:

        Biden turkey runs…..
        while the minority female deaf hand signer (#2)
        is signing (not singing) to the music…
        and obviously ad-libbing some funky hand signing.
        Secret message(s) for the deaf?
        How thoughtful, and diversified…. of the Joe Biden pumpkin patch.

      • MarineDad61 says:

        Please correct me if I’m wrong, but….
        The secret deaf hand signing message
        (to the music?) appears to be
        “Bitch slap the Earth”.