Louisville protests descend into chaos when armed protester accidentally shoots members of his group

| July 26, 2020


Armed members of the “NAFC” march through downtown toward the Hall of Justice in Louisville, Ky., Saturday, July 25, 2020.

A group of heavily armed protesters marched through Louisville, Kentucky on Saturday demanding justice for Breonna Taylor, a Black woman killed in March by police officers who burst into her apartment.

Scores of the armed demonstrators, carrying semi-automatic rifles and shotguns and clad in black paramilitary gear, walked to a fenced off intersection where they were separated by police from a smaller group of armed counter-protesters.

The Black militia named the Not Fucking Around Coalition (NFAC) want justice for Taylor, a 26-year-old emergency medical technician who died when drug investigators executed a “no-knock” warrant on her Louisville home four months ago. No drugs were found.

One police officer involved in the raid was fired by the city’s police department in June. Two other officers have been placed on administrative reassignment. No criminal charges have been filed against any of the three.

The leader of the NFAC group, John “Grandmaster Jay” Johnson, called on officials to speed up the investigation into her death and to be more transparent.

Three people were injured in Baxter Square Park, police said.

By Vandana Rambaran

Gunshots erupted during a planned protest in Louisville, Ky., Saturday and three members of the heavily armed militia group, the “Not F—ing Around Coalition” (NFAC), were injured by shots fired from one of their own member’s guns, police told Fox News.

The shooting took place near Baxter Square Park around 1 p.m. and all of the victims were transported to the University of Louisville Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, the Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) told Fox News.

Protesters ducked behind cars and scattered to flee the area, a reporter from WHAS11 wrote on Twitter.

One of the members of the NFAC spoke to throngs of protesters and said “we had a little accident, it happens,” the reporter said.

Earlier in the day, officers from the LMPD were on high alert, aware of the possibility of violence from highly armed militants dressed in all black — many of whom are not from Kentucky — claiming they are defending the Constitution and decrying the death of Breonna Taylor.

Keeping yer booger-hook off of the bang switch stops these “little accidents” AKA Negligent Discharges, from happening too. Idiot. Read the rest here: Fox News

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Skippy

BHWHAHAHAHA !!!!!!
Crap that sucks

Anonymous

yup

rgr769

Any videos of monkeys with submachineguns? I’ll be they would have about as much muzzle awareness and discipline as these clowns.

Slow Joe

Police are still doing no-knocks?

How many more people have to die? Isn’t this unconstitutional in our country where we have a 2nd amendment?

Breaching a door in America is never going to end well, whether the guy inside is a perv or a patriot.

UpNorth

What would the 2nd Amendment have to do with no-knock warrants? You’re not very good at this.
Now if you had questioned that type of warrant in relation to the 4th, you might be correct.
That said, I don’t know if SCOTUS has yet ruled on the use of no-knocks.

Slow Joe

The 2nd amendment because any no-knock has a high potential to become a firefight, as so many millions of us own firearms.

If someone breaches your door in the middle of the night, how do you know who it is?

David

Believe it or not, sometimes politely knocking at the door of an armed and committed criminal ends poorly. Taking them by surprise can save lives.

That being said, the risk inherent in no-knock raids is astronomical and they require accurate planning, which wasn’t done for this one.

timactual

” they require accurate planning,”

So how do you plan for somebody being woken by loud noises and assuming someone is breaking into their home to rob or kill them and reflexively resist?

11B-Mailclerk

How does one -not- plan for that? Entirely predictable.

Hit so hard and fast you are on them in seconds. Figure out how before trying it.

Snag them coming home from work, maybe by arranging a middle-of-elsewhere flat tire.

Hunt over bait.

timactual

“Snag them coming home from work,”

If they have a job the police probably don’t need the no-knock warrant. But yeah, snag them outside the house when they definitely won’t be able to dispose of evidence, which is (or so they say) the reason for no-knock warrants.

Mason

Breanna Taylor? That warrant was authorized to be a no-knock, but they did knock and announce.

timactual

,” but they did knock and announce.”

Sure. Too bad the boyfriend turned out to be a hair-trigger homicidal paranoid maniac who suffered from hallucinations. Just bad luck, I guess.

rgr769

Although the warrant was purportedly “no nock,” the police announced they were police with a warrant, according to reports I have read. Her boyfriend opened up on the cops after they breached the door. That is what precipitated the shooting; Taylor was hit with one of police rounds fired at her boyfriend.

timactual

If you have ever watched the TV series “Cops” you would see how police “announce” their presence. As the battering ram hits the door an officer screams “PoliceWarrant”, which may be difficult to hear or distinguish over the sound of the shattering door (and possibly windows) and stomping boots. Particularly if you are sleeping.

“Taylor was hit with one of police rounds”

“The LMPD officers fired over twenty shots. Taylor was shot eight times”

Somehow the boyfriend was not hit at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Breonna_Taylor

Mason

Almost like the BF was using her as a human shield…

What you’re describing from watching COPS is a no-knock warrant. The announcing is simultaneous with the breaching in a no-knock. A no-knock warrant means there is not a knock on the door (literally a knock), announcement outside the house that it’s the police, and then waiting a “reasonable” period of time before entry is forced. A knock and announce warrant requires all three of these things.

Ironically, the Breanna Taylor case makes the argument FOR no-knock warrants. Since they announced and waited, the BF had the time to arm himself and start shooting. If they’re burst in and had the element of surprise, he wouldn’t have started shooting, forcing the cops to shoot back.

The reason they did knock and announce was that she was supposed to be just the money person. She had a clean criminal record and so would hide the money for her drug dealing BF (different dude than she was sleeping with that night). They did not believe her apartment (which was named on the warrant as was Taylor herself) would be a site of violent resistance.

11B-Mailclerk

How does the lack of a knock prevent the occupant firing? You have reduced the response time available, but not eliminated it.

You also reduced the judgement time, and the “wake up and think clearly” time. This can produce unwanted responses for LEOs.

Mason

The unwanted response in this case is a guy opening fire on them. The knock and announce allowed for that here.

Top W Kone

Taylor was not named on the warrant. The dealer was an ex boyfriend from two years before and Walker and her had been Dating for over six months.

There is no evidence they did more than start kicking in the door and no one ever heard them claim to be police.

They were not in uniform and only one was marked police.

After the shooting, one of them left the scene for over an hour.

The first report they turned in stated only an officer was hurt, and was mostly blank

The person named in the warrant was already in police custody.

Mason

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/

Taylor WAS named on the warrant. Her BF the drug dealer was indeed in custody, but she was also a target. The police executed several warrants at the same time, which is not the least bit unusual in a complex drug case.

Cops executing a warrant don’t have to be in uniform. Since her address wasn’t expected to have any resistance, they didn’t have a ton of personnel. Again, this isn’t unusual. Most warrants are executed by investigations, so they’re in plainclothes. When serving a warrant they will wear raid jackets or a vest that clearly identify them as police. The uniformed officer detailed to the warrant would have been to add additional legitimacy to any complaint that they didn’t know the people with “POLICE” in great big letters across their chest were police.

LVMPD has been terrible in countering all the false information that’s spread around this case.

timactual

“Since they announced and waited,”

BS. Show me.

timactual

So the police waited until after midnight to knock on someone’s door and announce their presence and wait for a response?

More BS.

The Other Whitey

There’s an awful lot of confusion and conflicting accounts in the Taylor case. Some sources are saying she was named in the warrant. She may or may not have been innocent. She may or may not have been struck by rounds fired at her boyfriend, who may or may not be a shitbag. It could be a clean shoot that cost a cop his job due to politics, or it could be a bad shoot.

I’m withholding judgement until more is known and verified.

The Other Whitey

Sometimes a no-knock is prudent and called for. Like anything else, it can be, and sometimes is, abused. Duncan Lemp, for example.

There needs to be a lot more accountability for no-knocks. With oversight, transparency, accountability, and consequences for abuse, it should be fine. Unfortunately, we don’t have those necessary components, or at least not enough of them, and place entirely too much blind faith on the integrity of individuals with agendas. Those individuals are thus free to abuse the option without repercussions. That’s the problem.

11B-Mailclerk

With modern technology, continuous all-participant video for anyone not undercover should be a condition of the warrant and service of it.

From arrival at the objective and through the post event wrap up.

Why the heck not? Protects -everyone- who is not being a shitbag, and ensures folks trying to bullshit have a neutral witness to counter it.

Why would that not work as a 100% requirement?

Mason

The biggest problem is cost. Most agencies don’t have the money to spend on body cams for everyone and the massive storage costs associated with retaining the video.

I don’t know any cops who have gotten body cams and disliked them. Even the most ardent body cam haters come around really, really quick.

Cops like body cams. With two exceptions. First, narcotics officers think that the body cam will somehow “out” them. This is idiotic, but just like SWAT officers like to think they’re the tactical elite and equal to Navy SEALS, narcs think they’re super cool and all deep cover Serpico-types.

The other ones who don’t like body cams are administrators. They hate wearing anything that makes them accountable.

11B-Mailclerk

Cost of cams versus costs of litigation and settlements.

Can they afford -not- to use them?

Mason

You were in long enough to see the budget process. There’s a difference between a known cost now and potential cost later. The cost later is a tomorrow people problem.

timactual

“There needs to be a lot more accountability for no-knocks.”

Good luck with that. Any accountability for “unfortunate outcomes” of no-knock warrants has been non-existant from the start. Like civil asset forfeiture it has become just another feature of corrupt and/or incompetent police work. sometimes promises to clean up the situation are made, but never kept.

Berliner

—From Wikipedia about the incident:
Shortly after midnight on March 13, 2020, Louisville police entered the apartment of Breonna Taylor and Kenneth Walker using a battering ram to force open the door. The police were investigating two men they believed were selling drugs. The Taylor/Walker home was included in a signed “no-knock” search warrant, signed by Jefferson County Circuit Judge Mary M. Shaw, reportedly based on representations by police that one of the men used the apartment to receive packages. The suspected drug dealer had allegedly been seen walking into Taylor’s apartment one January afternoon with a USPS package before leaving and driving to a known drug house, and the warrant said a US Postal Inspector confirmed that the man had been receiving packages at the apartment. ->Postal Inspector Tony Gooden has said that his office had told police there were no packages of interest being received there.Walker said in his police interrogation that Taylor yelled multiple times, “Who is it?” after hearing a loud bang at the door, but received no answer, and that he then armed himself. Walker, a licensed firearm carrier, shot first, striking a police officer in the leg; in response, the officers opened fire with more than 20 rounds, hitting objects in the living room, dining room, kitchen, hallway, bathroom, and both bedrooms. Taylor was shot at least eight times and pronounced dead at the scene. No drugs were found in the apartment. According to anonymous sources who spoke to WAVE3 News, one of the three officers allegedly fired blindly from the exterior of the residence, through a window with closed blinds and curtains; the sources said they do not believe Taylor was struck by any of the bullets fired by the officer who was outside.<-

Investigations and aftermath – Inaccurate police incident report:
The police filed an incident report that stated that Taylor had no injuries and that no forced entry occurred. The police department said that technical errors led to a nearly entirely blank malformed report.

The Dead Man

You know for a site that is so used to using FOIA, I’m amazed the suggestion to just request the bodycam footage post-investigation hasn’t been brought up.

Top W Kone

The police doing the raid did not turn on their cams. In fact deliberate chose to not wear them. (Their words) because they were part of an undercover team and did not want people to see them with them on.

No neighbors heard anything but the door being kicked in and shots.

Police dropped charges against the boyfriend because there was not enough evidence to prove they identified who they were before he defended the home

11B-Mailclerk

Undercovers should not be serving warrants. Kinda blows the whole “undercover” thing.

If they do so, they should do so with the understanding that video is part of that event.

Choose wisely.

Mason

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/16/breonna-taylor-fact-check-7-rumors-wrong/5326938002/

Taylor WAS named on the warrant. Her BF the drug dealer was indeed in custody, but she was also a target. The police executed several warrants at the same time, which is not the least bit unusual in a complex drug case.

Cops executing a warrant don’t have to be in uniform. Since her address wasn’t expected to have any resistance, they didn’t have a ton of personnel. Again, this isn’t unusual. Most warrants are executed by investigations, so they’re in plainclothes. When serving a warrant they will wear raid jackets or a vest that clearly identify them as police. The uniformed officer detailed to the warrant would have been to add additional legitimacy to any complaint that they didn’t know the people with “POLICE” in great big letters across their chest were police.

LVMPD has been terrible in countering all the false information that’s spread around this case.

USMC Steve

There are still a number of states, almost all blue ones, who have illegal and unconstitutional red flag laws on the books. My understanding was that this was a red flag warrant they were serving on her boyfriend.

In every state with a red flag law, police have murdered at several people while “executing” the warrant. And, yes, the correct term is murder. They uniformly execute the warrant at like 0300, bust in the door without announcing themselves, and the homeowner thinks thugs are breaking in. And in every single case of those warrant executions, no evidence was found to indicate that the person was nuts or a threat to others. I find myself expecting to one day see a swat team getting wasted while mindlessly obeying these orders. It might give others pause before violating civil rights.

11B-Mailclerk

Does no one understand how to harden a door? With very little effort, almost any door becomes a two-thump problem. That buys the resident precious seconds to make good choices.

timactual

“That buys the resident precious seconds to make good choices.”

Whereas the police have hours to make good choices and still screw up.

11B-Mailclerk

Gun folk often neglect smoke detectors, a flashlight by the bed, fire extinguisher, door hardening, etc.

Before one buys yet another c-note of ammo, or drops a grand on another boomstick, maybe invest in some minor hardware that makes a door harder to kick in. A few cheap motion-sensor night lights make it oh so much easier to see if it is Mr burglar that just bashed his way in.

Ever time how long it takes to get from your doormat to your bedroom at a dead run, doors unlocked? That is the time you have to grab your nightstand gun and stop the Hollywood maniac burglar, or to grab and put it back because cops. Would you spend $100 for five more seconds?

Living in some really shitty situations taught some valuable lessons on the value of time.

Ex-PH2

So help me, that’s funny all by itself. Spooked the cat with it.

Still laughing…..

George V

Name change needed??

“Mostly Not Fu…”

“NFAC But Not Everyone”

“A Few FAC”

11B-Mailclerk

Just one was F-ing around.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

Let’s see…….going back to older classic SNL.

Not Ready For Fucking Around Coalition.

11B-Mailclerk

Booger hook / bang switch

This is -not- the intersectionality to study while participating in an “open carry” demonstration.

BANG! … ouch.

Thus endeth the lesson.

11B-Mailclerk

Btw.

If open carry by Bubba is ok, why was this event even noteworthy, prior to the ND?

Personally, I was glad to see this particular protest. The more folks responsibly exercising the Second Amendment, the better I feel. I was also certain that no pale blackheads would be trying to screw with the cops, trying to provoke violence.

Fyrfighter

I agree 11-B, and though this group may not intend it, they are painting the lefties into a corner. Being as they’re a black group, the left cannot say or do anything negative against them, and in fact will likely praise them for standing up for their rights.
Once these lefties are on record as supporting armed citizens protesting for their rights, video of that should be used constantly when the same fools attack peaceful armed 2A or anti-mask and similar protests. It will also be useful to show how racist the left is, in that they appear to only support people of the “correct” color being armed and marching for their rights.

11B-Mailclerk

Sooner or later, the Left will throw those folks under the bus.

Fyrfighter

No doubt, they always do.. I’m just hoping that they produce some good sound bite / video clip fodder before then.

A Proud Infidel®™️

The left ALWAYS throws it useful idiots under the proverbial bus as soon as they’re no longer deemed useful,

Top W Kone

I found it noteworthy because of the number of so called pro-gun groups who were demanding they not be allowed to march.

Kept saying they were a hate group, had no right to travel to Louisville, and they were really coming to shoot cops and cause violence

11B-Mailclerk

Which groups?

Most of the discussions I hear boil down to “open carry is dumb as a protest” versus “rights are like muscles, requiring exercise to remain useable”

USMC Steve

Except they didn’t responsibly demonstrate it. Thus the three dudes getting hit by negligent discharges. Now, they did otherwise apparently behave themselves. Other than demanding to “burn this mothafucka down”.

11B-Mailclerk

-one- clutzy dweeb doesn’t define them, any more than one squawking dweeb defines our merry little band.

I respect those folks who decided to -daylight- march down a street, saying their version of “don’t tread on me”, while apparently succeeding in deterring the cowardly skulk-in-the-dark pantyfa-types from starting shit on their behalf.

Respect them for -that-, at least, eh? Very civilized and wise.

That bunch was no more a threat than the “no step snake” crowd. (Other than one booger-hook-bozo)

Did you consider that the press is not about to show the 30-something Thomas Sowell clone who speaks of equal justice under law, chapter and verse, and Mr Winchester putting the Klan and Democrat ass-hattery at bay?

That won’t sell clicks, eh? They will show the illiterate clown with a well-chipped shoulder talking smack and stupid.

The presstitutes routinely do it to -us-. Did you consider it was being done to them?

Transactional Analysis: That game is “let’s you and him fight”.

Don’t play.

timactual

Which reminds me. Why haven’t we heard about the deadly and imminent threat of those violent fascist right-wing militias lately? Seems like taking on Antifa and liberating all those liberated zones would be their cup of tea. Especially since Trump is wearing out a ton of dog whistles trying to arouse his base of murderous, bigoted howling loons.

timactual

PS You know who you are!

rgr769

Maybe the Hawaiian shirts have all been remanufactured into face masks so the Boogaloos can’t get into their prescribed attire. It’s easy for Antifa’s; all they need is black pants and a BLM t-shirt.

11B-Mailclerk

Funny you should mention that.

Now that the Donks are saying “oh crap. Our pet left-wing rioters just scared millions into likely voting for Trump.” They will now blame the riots on “right wing militias and provocateurs” and Trump. This will be based on the pale complexion of the pantifa/blackhead types. “-our- protests are peaceful!”

Note the recent pale decedant who pointed his AK at the epically-wrong-target driver.

The media will dutifully baaaaaaaa the message.

SFC D

“John “Grandmaster Jay” Johnson”

That’s racist.

Topski

Think an investigation of the” grandmaster” needs to be done, claims he is an army vet and likes to wear SMG rank on his shirts

just lurkin

I’m not sure why one of them felt it was necessary to go “red direct’ for a protest march.

A Proud Infidel®™️

HOW MANY TIMES do some meatheads need to be told to keep their ever-lovin’ booger-picker appendage off of that make-it-go-bang doohickey?

26Limabeans

Gay Militia. You know it’s coming.

Fyrfighter

Already there…

11B-Mailclerk

Pink Pistols

Because no one fagbashes a 9mm.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

A number of years ago, there was a no knock entry made at a home and the home owner was roughed up and turns out that it was the wrong house and the Orficers left without even apologizing. I don’t know what the home owner did about it after the incident. The no knock was for the house next door.

Hack Stone

Hack Stone found video of that.

5th/77th FA

“Accidental discharge…” Sounds like what I almost had when I saw Ms Thang on the Sunday Mornings FGS.

Dumbasses! I don’t really believe in “accidents.” Everything that happens has a cause….AND an effect.

SFC D

Could’ve also been a dishonorable discharge this morning…

David

Small correction, last article I saw says it was a woman affiliated with the group who inadvertently opened fire. “Her group”.

“a little accident, it happens,” – uh, no, how many pro-2A groups have marched or protested without ONE negligent discharge or injury?

Maybe they should change to No Females Armed Coalition for safety.

11B-Mailclerk

Why would a female participant be considered “affiliated with the group” instead of “group” when armed and participating in the event?

That seems … wrong.

USMC Steve

Maybe they have a ladies auxiliary?

timactual

Hey! Somebody needs to provide the refreshments and clean up after the meetings.

Mason

Wonder if they were handing out rifles from the trunk of a car to untrained/unqualified people ala CHAZ.

USAFRetired

“One of the members of the NFAC spoke to throngs of protesters and said “we had a little accident, it happens,” the reporter said.”

Bullshit Not an Accident… Negligent

Violated multiple of the FOUR rules of weapon handling.

timactual

I wonder if NFAC is listed with the SPLC.

E4 Mafia '83-'87

nfac is just another blm-type group “trying to intimidate” but are looking foolish instead. In their last video, one of their members was walking around with a stovepipe jam in his weapon. They’re lucky only 3 were shot by ‘friendly fire’.

Anonymous

Retards.

timactual

Armed retards; the second most dangerous kind.

Elected retards are #1, in case you were wondering.