Thursday FGS

| July 9, 2020


Marlin Model 336

To the Archives we go. Again.

Police: Detroit woman getting ready for church shoots, kills man during home invasion

Detroit police are investigating a home invasion turned fatal shooting on Mark Twain Street Sunday morning.

According to officers, around 10:30 a.m., a mother and daughter were getting ready to leave their home for church when an unknown man approached and tried grabbing one of them.

The mother and daughter then went back inside their home, but the suspect “forced his way inside,” according to police.

The 55-year-old mother then retrieved a gun and fired two shots at the suspect, hitting him at least once in the chest. Medics pronounced him dead at the scene.

Read the rest here: WXYZ

June Sets NICS Volume/Gun Sales Record
by Guy J. Sagi

The FBI processed a total of 3,931,607 records through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) in June, roughly 1.6 million more than the same month in 2019 and nearly 200,000 more than the previous highwater mark, set in March. After subtracting use of the system not associated with a firearm purchase, the number reflects the sale of nearly 2.4 million guns nationwide. The figures do not include transfers made to valid CCW permit holders in those regions of the country where a redundant background check is not required for their firearm purchases.

May’s gun sales numbers were also up by 80.2 percent, with a total of 1,726,053, according to an estimate from Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting (SAAF). The increases have now continued for more than a year and show little sign of slowing.

The record for the most firearms sold in a single year reflected by a NICS background was set in 2016. Estimates put that figure at 15.5 million, but a “new normal” on its heels saw 2017 numbers drop to 14 million and 2018 came in at 13.1 million. Last year’s total sales started the current upswing with 13.9 million.

The total for this year currently stands at roughly 10.6 million and the traditionally busy hunting and holiday seasons are months away. If the trend continues there’s little doubt a new record for annual firearm purchases will be set by 2020, as well at total NICS volume.

Read the rest here: Shooting Illustrated

Archives are bad enough, Delta Whiskies and Whiskettes, but I’m also posting a related Second Amendment article. Don’t like it either, but here we are.

“As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances, there is a twilight. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness.” — Justice William O. Douglas, US Supreme Court (1939-75)

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Comm Center Rat

Police: Detroit woman getting ready for church shoots, kills man during home invasion

There’s no devil on this Earth gonna’ keep her from hearing the Good News. Now go in peace to love and serve the Lord. Amen Sister Straight Shooter.

Hack Stone

Praise the Lord and pass the ammo.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

The perp got “Mark”ed, and his body and spirit went their “Twain” ways.

(thank you, I’ll be here all week)

Steve 1371

Good shooting Detroit mother! Now that’s clinging to your guns and religion! Your my kind of American.
Thats a real nice Marlin, looks like it came out of North Haven. I prefer a Williams receiver sight to a scope on a fast handling lever gun but that’s just me.

26Limabeans

Love the open Buckhorn sight on my .444
Not a scope fan either. Quick target aquisition is difficult for me.
I like to come down across the sight picture and time my release.

I believe the M-14 peep sights were made by Williams.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong. They were really good though for
the 300+ meter pop-up targets.

26Limabeans

Friend has a 336 in .35 Rem and it is the smoothest action
I have ever worked. Light, thin and nimble it is the
perfect deer rifle for the Maine woods.

Poetrooper

Young Poe had him a Marlin 336 way back in the 60’s until he got crazy on tequila down in Ojinaga’s Boy’s Town and sold it to the bar owner for a line of credit.

I couldn’t begin to remember what pleasures that beautiful gun may have bought me that wild weekend but I do know that fool’s trade brought me more than a half century of regret.

There’s a life lesson in there somewhere…

😢😢😢😭

Poetrooper

That memory brought back another–totally off topic, Ed, but interesting nonetheless.

Ojinaga, out west of Big Bend and 65 miles south of Marfa was still the Old West back in those days: unpaved streets, swinging doors on the cantinas and local policia who sported tied down, quick-draw rigs with long-barreled hoglegs that they might not shoot you with but they’d sure’s hell crack your skull with if you even looked at them the wrong way.

There was a cantina in Boy’s Town (the red light district) that was renowned for the thousands upon ten-thousands of flies on the ceiling, enough to make it black from wall to wall. For reasons no one knew, this particular variation of Mexican fly had chosen the ceiling of that particular bar as their refuge/sanctuary/hive, whatever.

Strangely, they stayed on the ceiling and didn’t bother the bar patrons or employees. Never saw anything like that anywhere else in my subsequent travels.

Sorry, Ed, but you stirred an old geezer’s memory with that .336.

😜

5th/77th FA

?!?Whut?!? ?Who?!? I never!…Well, not today…too much anyways. The tip top of the truck of the thread flag pole is still visible from my comment. Isn’t it? Have another serving of the Thursdays are for Cooking Recipe. You feel better with a full tummy.

5th/77th FA

Yepper Steve 1371, and all of this time we’ve been told that it was only Southern, White, Male, Redneck Deplorables that clung to their Bibles and Guns. Somehow I don’t think that description fits the Detroit Mother. Way to go Baby Mama…Another bites the dust! AMEN! They are gonna have to change the name of that street. That Twain fella wrote that book with “that word” all in it. And you know he was a Missouri Partisan Ranger for awhile. A “GASP” Gray Rider.

False narrative on all of them background checks for firearms purchases. Everybody knows that you can just walk into a store and buy gunz. Or go to a gunz show. You can even buy one from a ghost. Those 3 some odd million background checks were for framing innocent young choir members that wanted to enroll in junior college. #JuniorCollegeMatters #ChoirBoysMatter

Lever actions…The Original Assault Rifle. It all goes back to Mr. Henry and his Yellow Boy. If Messrs Spencer and Henry had not of been squeezed out by the nefarious actions of US Army Purchasing Agents being bought off by Springfield and the fear that the Soldier would “waste too many cartridges” the unpleasantness of ’61-’65 would have been over much quicker. Then along came the influence of Mrs. Winchester to screw Mr. Henry afterwards. But, again, I digress. If Artie Custer’s Troopers had of carried the repeaters that were available AND the Gatling Guns that were assigned to the 7th, The Battle @ Greasy Grass would’ve had a different outcome too.

RGR 4-78

Don’t forget the Evans Repeating Rifle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evans_Repeating_Rifle

Poetrooper

Wow! 28 rounds in a butt stock magazine. Thanks, Ranger, that’s one I didn’t know about.

RGR 4-78

I did not know of it until last week. Was doing some research on the old badly rusted lever gun my brother found in the concrete of an old dug well, low and behold, it was an Evans.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

My friend who recently retired and moved to Virginia tells me over the phone yesterday that between a Pawn shop owner pawn shop and his gun shop, he sold around 800 firearms last week. I asked my friend to ask the owner the next times he goes into the shop is how many were regular customers and how many were first time buyers and if he could tell if they were panicked liberals. Only long guns I now own are a Ruger and Rossi .22 pump gallery long & short barrel rifle’s.

Roh-Dog

So… I’m sure this is kinda feel good, it’s nice to see karma at work at least!

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/oregon-man-driving-stolen-vehicle-crashes-into-woman-driving-stolen-car-police

“A car crash Sunday resulted in both drivers being arrested after police in Oregon discovered they were both driving stolen vehicles.

Newberg-Dundee police chased Randy Lee Cooper, 27, in a stolen Land Cruiser before he careened into a Buick Regal as he was attempting to elude officers.”

If these two breed I’ll quit this f**king planet.

ArmyATC

Love the Marlin 336. The action is much smoother and quicker than my Winchester ’94.

As an aside, and not meaning to hijack the thread, it’s been said to never completely load a lever gun because recoil could set off the rounds in the tubular magazine. Can anyone point to a single case where this ever happened?

26Limabeans

Hornady is making money off that myth with the Leverevolution ammo
sporting plastic tips. I have heard the caution but never heard of a
documented case. The manual for my .444 is silent on the matter.

The recommended ammo for the .444 is RM44 which is flat nosed.
I can see an issue with a “raised” primer not properly seated
but I doubt factory ammo would get by QC which leaves hand loads.

I only load three rounds anyway……

ArmyATC

Same here. I’ve never heard of a single case. Like David below, I could see a possible problem with a Spitzer bullet, but not for other types.

David

Absolute hogwash if you use flatnose or polymer-tipped bullets. If you use spitzers… well, you deserve whatever you get. The theory is that the pointed bullet of one cartridge is up against the primer of the next round, and under recoil could cause the second primer to go off, causing a chain reaction inside the tubular magazine.

ArmyATC

Yeah, heard the theory also, though it was told as fact. When I bought my first lever gun, the dealer told me to not load it beyond three rounds because “it would blow up.” When I asked him when such a thing happened it came down to the cousin of a friend who had an uncle who knew a guy who’s brother…As in all things, let common sense be your guide.

11B-Mailclerk

Those of us who shoot “Cowboy Action Shooting” matches routinely load ten in the magazine of our rifles, six times in a typical one day shoot. We run them rather hard, too.

“Run it like ye stoled it!”

As long as they are flat-point rounds, and the flat is even slightly larger than the primers, no drama.

Even if a little smaller, probably won’t crush the primer.

Roundnose without a flat can set off a round in front. Still not very common.

Use proper ammo, and get proper function.

I have been using leverguns 20 years. Fully loaded. No magazine blowups.

Steve 1371

Any good reloading manual will advise against loading Spitzer bullets on a tubular magazine. Hornady gummy tips are an exception to the rule. If some gubber loads pointed full metal jackets in a tube you are asking for a problem. I believe the 336 holds 5 and that spring load alone on the first one in is pretty high. Older full length magazines hold up to several more. Just a good tap on the butt is likely to set them off.