Minneapolis City Council

| June 8, 2020

In a flash of brilliance, the Minneapolis City Council, with a veto-proof majority, will de-fund the Minneapolis Police Department. The funds will be redirected towards “other needs.” What these needs may be is left unsaid. Other Minneapolis organizations will follow suit, essentially disbanding the MPD.

Cameron sends.

Minneapolis City Council Members Announce Intent To Disband Police Department

By Ryan Saavedra

A “veto-proof majority” of Minneapolis City Council members have announced on Sunday their intent to disband the Minneapolis Police Department following the death of George Floyd.

Minneapolis City Council President Lisa Bender told CNN that nine of the city council’s 13 members are in favor of disbanding the police department and will do so by shifting the department’s funding to other needs.

The Appeal reported, “The City Council’s decision follows those of several other high-profile partners, including Minneapolis Public Schools, and the University of Minnesota, and Minneapolis Parks and Recreation, to sever longstanding ties with the MPD.”

“We’re here because we hear you. We are here today because George Floyd was killed by the Minneapolis Police. We are here because here in Minneapolis and in cities across the United States it is clear that our existing system of policing and public safety is not keeping our communities safe,” Bender said. “Our efforts at incremental reform have failed. Period.”

“Our commitment is to do what is necessary to keep every single member of our community safe and to tell the truth that the Minneapolis Police are not doing that,” Bender claimed. “Our commitment is to end our city’s toxic relationship with the Minneapolis Police Department, to end policing as we know it, and to recreate systems of public safety that actually keep us safe.”

One of the members of the Minneapolis City Council is Jeremiah Ellison, son of Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who recently declared his support for Antifa, a far-left extremist organization.

This should end well. /sarc. Minneapolis will be smoldering ash by the end of the summer. Little need for a City Council then. Read the entire article here:Daily Wire

Thanks, Cameron.

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Hack Stone

Not the first time that the Twin Cities turned a blind eye to criminal behavior.

https://www.minnpost.com/mnopedia/2015/11/crooks-haven-gangster-era-st-paul/

Mason

My how far we’ve come. Back then teeth condition was an identifying characteristic.

Roh-Dog

GFY Levelers!
Hell, nuke the site from orbit… you can vote your way into [central planning] but you’ll have to [honk] your way out.

JTB

When is the next election…

Commissar

Misinformation and hysteria is rampant about this.

Camden, NJ did the same thing. Their department was notoriously corrupt and abusive. Even linked to unsolved murders.

The county and city still maintained law enforcement on the street, They replaced it with a community policing focused structure. And crime dropped. As did police abuse. And the murder rate.

The culture of police departments and he strength of police unions makes it incredibly difficult to reform them.

I am against public sector unions. And especially police unions. They do not protect the public, they protect bad actors and make accountability and reform almost impossible.

So disbanding a department is as much union busting as it is police reform.

Hack Stone

Yes, the Camden government was inherently corrupt. One of the mayors was convicted in federal court on drug charges. Those damn corrupt Republicans! Oh, wait, he was a Democrat. Never mind.

The Other Whitey

Let’s see the democrats who have called all the shots in Minneapolis for 47 years take responsibility for the allegedly rampant racism at MPD. Were they too incompetent to do anything about it, were they apathetic and didn’t bother, or are they just bullshit pandering (again)? Because damn near half a century is plenty of time to make major changes if they really had such a major problem. Their party line fails the smell test, and miserably so.

Roh-Dog

Once again, you’ve swayed me! Even the “History [Channel]” agrees, shooting children’s in ze head is acceptable, as long as…reasons. I’ve seen the [Red] light!!!
¡Via la revolution!
https://youtu.be/uel_RBJUHuU

Comm Center Rat

For the first time ever, I find myself in agreement with you. I too favor the abolishment of all public sector unions. Only about 14.1 million American workers are unionized, but half of those are public service employees.

Underfunded state pension plans are the next financial crisis waiting to explode. Pension funds expect to earn a 6.5%+ return on investment annually, but that is difficult to achieve without risk.

The largest city closest to me now requires police officers to serve a minimum of 25 years instead of 20 years to qualify for a pension. Just as the military retired pay system has changed to a less generous payout formula so to must state pension plans as average life expectancy is higher.

FuzeVT

You beat me to it! I was going to say the same thing about agreement with our friend here.
“I am against public sector unions. And especially police unions. They do not protect the public, they protect bad actors and make accountability and reform almost impossible.”

Yes indeed (I’d throw teachers unions in regarding that last bit about accountability and bad actors).

Are you allowed to talk ill of unions? I thought that was one of those things that progressives had to be all in on. Not trying to be snarky, the left just doesn’t allow much for a lot of breaking ranks.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Yep on the teacher’s unions… they do everything they can to protect the bad actors… “for the children”.

SFC D

So you’re telling me that “disbanding a department” doesn’t really mean “disbanding a department” in this case.

Are there any other re-definitions you’d care to discuss?

Veritas Omnia Vincit

I am against public sector unions. And especially police unions. They do not protect the public, they protect bad actors and make accountability and reform almost impossible.

This is right, no good comes of public sector unions at least not for the public.

The difference between the local steelworkers union and the local police union should be pretty clear by now…when the guy in the local steel workers union shoves an old man to the ground he goes to jail and his union doesn’t do shit to protect him….

Teachers unions so protect their teachers that in some cities like New York some six hundred teachers get paid to sit in a room and not teach because they are judged incompetent or dangerous to kids and while their cases are arbitrated, often for years, these people build seniority and pension value and keep their benefit packages.

Public unions are the worst kind of parasite on the taxpayers.

David

and nowadays they have… a police department.
Sounds like it is better trained, but apparently all the original police were given the opportunity to join the new department – “Everybody was laid off,” he explained. “Everyone was given the opportunity to join the new department.” according to their captain. Sounds like the administration was corrupt, not the cops. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/protests/stopping-systemic-racism-in-police-departments-protests/65-c8f377a4-c2d4-4659-86e0-3fd13ec3dbc2

NHSparky

So how do you propose replacing the LEO structure in a city with a metro population of approaching 4 million?

Anonymous

Stand by for little militias fighting each others…

cobrakai99

Import Somalia become Somalia.

cobrakai99

Import Somalia become Somalia

26Limabeans

Lewiston Maine.

26Limabeans

Rich French Canadian culture there.
They settled the area from the St Lawrence River Valley
and PEI as well as Nova Scotia.
The linen Mills brought them.

Clinton dumped the Somalis on them and now the place
is a third world shithole. The mills are long gone.
Heh, the governor is named Mills…

AW1 Rod

Actually, it was the Catholic Charities who turned Lewiston and Portland into Mogadishu-like Skinny shitholes.

My daughter (unfortunately) still lives in Lewiston, and has to work in and around those vermin. It wouldn’t surprise me to find them sitting around a fucking camp fire in Marcotte Park, eating goat-grab with their fucking feet!

NHSparky

I make it a point never to stop in Portland or Lewiston if I can possibly avoid it.

Andy11M

Conspiracy me says they and others were waiting for something like Floyd’s death to ride the wave to get this done. Let no crisis go to waste, right? Someone somewhere has a road map for where they are going with all this, I just don’t know what that final destination is.

Poetrooper

Anarchy–drive the nation into crisis so that the people are hurting, confused and seeking strong leadership. Then impose a strong, central (read leftist: either socialist or communist) dictatorial government. It’s a variation of the Cloward-Piven strategy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

Anonymous

Out of chaos comes order– it’s an old strategy.

Hack Stone

Remember the good old days when Mad Max, Escape From New York And Robocop were escapist fantasies meant to entertain you for a few hours and not instructional videos? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

Roh-Dog

Hahahhahahaha!
I needed this.

SFC D

Those movies were documentaries made by time-travelers as a warning. See also all
“Terminator” movies.

Old tanker

Well now I am taking bets here. There are two choices. This time next year will Minneapolis resemble, A. Mogadishu or B. Falusia?

Roh-Dog

Nagasaki/Dresden?

A Proud Infidel®™

Berlin in 1945? Hiroshima? Nagasaki?

Roh-Dog

Holodomor Soviet Ukraine, 1932-33?
Pledge allegiance to the Committee and snitch on your neighbors, maybe you get a food credit.
Do your part Citizen, social justice demands it!

A Proud Infidel®™

Monrovia, Liberia?

Slow Joe

Osgiliath, Gondor?

bill

LA? Hollywood? NYC? Tijuana?

26Limabeans

Budapest early fifties.

Martinjmpr

Yes, Minnesota needs its own General Butt Naked

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Butt_Naked

Ex-PH2

Mao’s Great Leap Forward: somewhere between 30,000,000 and 80,000,000 Chinese citizens died of starvation; some were cannibalized by people they knew, including their own families.

Amateur Historian

Pripyat, Ukraine?

5th/77th FA

Ot, I’ll put a C note on, “both of them!”

I wonder if the Council will call in Gnrl Henry Sibley or maybe Col Frank Skimmerhorn to keep the peace?

Ex-PH2

How about this: how long will it take for Minneapolis to empty itself of real wage earners and professional people?

Roh-Dog

That block done been checked.
Ain’t nothing gonna balance the scales after the temper tantrums.

Ex-PH2

So they have, in effect, made their own cesspits and they can now just lie in them?

Just tryin’ to understand.

Detroit was once a thriving city.

Roh-Dog

Ticks don’t feed on corpses.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Time machines are real. I mentioned a couple of times that I made one that will take a person 2 hours into the future in 120 minutes. My friend was telling me that the Coloseaum gun store on hempstead tpke in Uniondale LI NY had long lines out side the door with people buying up most of the ammo he had and some people were seen leaving with long arms. Was on the TV local news. I need one of you math experts to find out how many people are NRA members and get 37 perecent from that which will show in numbers how many Democrats are NRA members, because 37% of NRA members are Democrats.

Ex-PH2

NRA has 5.5 million members.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Thank’s Ex, now I have to figure what is 37 percent of 5.5 million.

OldSoldier54

That would be .37 x 5,500,000 = 2,035,000.

Mason

A large chunk of the city already resembles Somalia and has the largest population of Somalis outside Somalia.

A Proud Infidel®™

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the do-gooder liberals import a bunch of muzzies into the Twin Cities, notably from Somalia? I wonder if this isn’t some plot to turn Minneapolis and Saint Paul into a Mogadishu or Monrovia, Liberia on American soil!

5th/77th FA

Bunch of ’em API. Tens of 1000s. In 2018 4 millions of USD (Federal) went to 4K refugees. You do the math. Here’s one linky on the subject:

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/07/23/minnesota-somali-american-population-good-question/

btw, IIRC on this date in History 8 Jun 632AD the pedophile/wanna be prophet died.

Combat Historian

Somali immigrants who lived through the Somali Civil War can once again hire themselves out as “technicals” to “protect” (aka extort) neighborhoods, street blocks, and businesses in Minneapolis/ St. Paul. Money will be made, “employment” increased, sharia law enforced, revolutionary justice carried out. It’s a WIN-WIN for everyone!!!

(Sarc)

USMC Steve

NO, OBAMA ensured the importation of those Somalis into that area. I was in Somalia for three months at the start of that debacle. By the time I left, I saw a certain logic in tossing every single one of them into a wood chipper feet first. Totally useless, and in no way civilized.

Bubblehead Ray

“If you face aft, it’s on the Port side”

Bubblehead Ray

(The dumbest thing I had ever heard… until now)

Combat Historian

I’m sure they‘ll follow the Castro model, with People’s Militia units reporting to neighborhood and district revolutionary people’s committees and tribunals, all reporting directly to the Party Committee, and backed up by a vast network of informants reporting on no-good double thought crime-think. Havana, Commiesota, here we come!

Ex-PH2

I sincerely hope that the people who live outside Twin Cities have some means of protecting themselves and families and property from destruction.

Glad I moved away from Chicago a long, long time ago.

Anonymous

Just like in Venezuela lately…

Twist

Of course when something bad happens and the police can’t respond it will also be their fault.

OldSoldier54

No, no, it will be Trump’s fault because, ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

A Proud Infidel®™️

Bekuz Comisar tell us so and him say him smart bekuz he get edsh, edjuma, him go skool at UC Berzerkely!

bill

This saga continues to continue……..

UpNorth

I wonder if we’ll be able to see the smoke from Minneapolis burning over here in Whitmer’s Wonderland?
For those in Mogapolis, if your house gets B&E’d or you have an accident in your $30k Prius, good luck on getting anything fixed. No police reports, which insurance companies require to pay for repairs.

Deckie

New Mogadishu, Minnesota

Est. 2020

Martinjmpr

I don’t really think this is a bad idea overall though. It’s obvious that there is a serious disconnect between the police departments of many large cities and the people who live there.

If most of the police don’t live in the city they work in, then they are likely to be seen by the residents of that city as akin to an occupying army. And the police, feeling the resentment of the residents, are likely to feel the same way. This leads to police having an “us vs them” mentality and a callous indifference to what actually goes on in the city.

So in that sense, it seems that if the citizens of the city, on whose behalf the police are supposed to work, no longer feel like the police are representative of the citizens, then the police should be disbanded and the citizens can then decide amongst themselves how to maintain order.

Either way, somebody is going to be vindicated by events.

Docduracoat

Just like Somalia!
The “citizens” defend themselves by allying with the local warlord.
He has the most guns and followers, so his word is law.
You agree to his taking everything and doling it out to his followers.
Or else!

USAFRetired

Seeing as Minneapolis is a large city, does their police force not include some sort of collective bargaining agreement with the City. If so what is the termination cost to the taxpayer for said termination?

USMC Steve

Costs of things is not something the socialist democrats concern themselves with.

UpNorth

And, what of city finances if/when there is a run on the pension fund of the PD as everyone takes their money out of said pension fund? Anyone who is not vested in the pension fund can remove their money upon termination/resignation, and those who can retire better take their money and run.

timactual

That’s one reason to disband the police force; union agreements get disbanded, too. The tactic has been used before. Corporations declare bankruptcy, the union contract (and a lot of other contracts) becomes null, and the business reorganizes and continues. I suspect that is one reason Camden disbanded their police force.

David

So if police departments are not the answer, why hasn’t anyone in the last couple of MILLENIA come up with a better method?

Martinjmpr

Professional police forces only date back to the early- to mid-19th century. I think the London Metropolitan police were established some time in the 1820’s?

Prior to that the “militia” often patrolled the streets in many large cities. “Militia” is exactly what you think it is, i.e. citizens who have taken on the duty of maintaining civil order in their cities.

Perhaps it’s time to consider whether we should return to such a system of “policing our own” rather than outsourcing the protection of civil order to a professional organization that will look to its own survival first and its duties to the citizenry that it exists to serve second.

David

“that will look to its own survival first and its duties to the citizenry that it exists to serve second.” OK, you described a police militia… how do you describe the real cops? (and yes, I understand what you meant to say and I am sure Pollyanna would agree that civic minded citizens will be pure and above any partisan decisions. In the real world, you will have East St. Louis, only more lawless.

NHSparky

Great, so we have “Gangs of New York” to look forward to.

Anyone here ponying up membership fees to be part of the Dead Rabbits?

Green Thumb

Biden issued a statement saying that he does not support de-funding police departments. Reform, yes. De-funding, no.

This might get interesting with respect to support from his own party.

NHSparky

Especially considering he was one of the major forces behind criminal justice reform in the 90’s that resulted in POC being incarcerated in record numbers.

Can’t wait for that during the debates.

Green Thumb

We will see what happens when property values plummet and businesses seek other locations…

UpNorth

Mogappolis will go to the state and federal governments with hands out, demanding money.

OldSoldier54

Just when you think the stupid cannot get any worse …

xyzzy

How about making police chiefs elected officials? Making the police answer to the vote would go a long way towards restoring civilian confidence in LEOs.

The Other Whitey

Municipal sheriff, so to speak?

E4 Mafia '83-'87

Facts don’t care about your feelings as they say. The last Republican Mayor of each city:
Minneapolis: 1957-61
Baltimore: 1963-67
Detroit: 1957-62
Cleveland: 1980-89
Chicago: 1927-31
Notice the trend? Yet all these cities are “plagued by racist cops…Orange Man Bad!”

Republicans ran NYC 1994-2010 when Bloomberg switched parties. Comrade William Wilhelm Jr, aka Bill DeBlasio, inherited low crime rates relative to large city. His policies and shitting on the NYPD have made the city the mess it is today.