Riot Recap

| June 2, 2020

My inbox is filling up with articles and videos from the usual suspects, about all the looting, riots, and now violence roiling across our nation. My preferred method of addressing each one in turn isn’t possible, so I’ll consolidate them into one post and see how this format works. So far:

Cities facing looting and stronger National Guard Response (Fox News). In St. Louis, four policemen were shot (Twitter). In Iowa, a woman was shot in the back. (New York Post). In Los Angeles, police let protesters block traffic (Twitter). Trump Announces Major Crackdown On Violent Rioters (The Daily Wire). and finally, Rioters Set Fire To Home With Child Inside, Then Block Firefighters’ Access (The Daily Wire)

Feel free to update this post as events unfold. For example, I’m hearing about a Philly gun store owner who defended his livelihood and in turn his fellow Brotherly Love citizens, last night. Nothing to post yet, though.

Category: ANTIFA, First Responders, Guest Link

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2banana

Nothing says social justice better than looting a Footlocker.

ninja

Following AW1Ed’s lead.

Heard this story on Fox News this morning. Those thugs tried TWICE to break into his store.

“South Philly Gun Shop Owner Shoots, Kills Looter, Police Say”

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/south-philly-gun-shop-owner-shoots-kills-looter-police-say/2416373/

“A South Philadelphia gun shop owner shot and killed a man trying to break into his store early Tuesday morning amid heightened looting concerns.”

“Philadelphia police said the owner of Firing Line Inc. was staying the night inside the shop on South Front Street because over the last few nights someone had tried breaking in.”

“The owner told police he was monitoring his surveillance camera and saw three or four people trying to get in around 4 a.m. The group was using bolt cutters on the gate. A broken lock could later be seen on the ground.”

“The group then smashed in the back door, police said. When they made it upstairs the owner started shooting and shot one man in the head.”

“That man died in the store, police said. The other men ran off. Police found a gun that the owner said does not belong to his shop at the scene, so they think someone brought that with them.”

“An injured person turned up at Jefferson University Hospital, which investigators said could be connected to this. The person was shot in shoulder.”

“Police said the men would likely be charged with burglary, but it could be looting just because of the climate of the city right now.”

“The store owner wasn’t injured. He was taken in for questioning by police.”

“Surveillance video will assist police in the investigation.”

“No charges were filed as of Tuesday morning.”

sheesh

I don’t know the laws pertaining to looting, but this store owner could be prosecuted if it was deemed he was defending property.

If his life was threatened, he feared for his life and it was proven that he acted out of self-defense, then he may avoid prosecution.

The article, however, sounds like he armed himself and stayed in the store to defend against looters, so I don’t know how that plays out if lawyers make an argument that he put himself in harm’s way.

It’s sad to say, but criminals have a lot of rights.

ninja

Those thugs tried to break into his store the night before.

The Owner captured it on camera.

The thugs were unsuccessful. So they returned last night and successfully broke in.

Little did they know the Owner was waiting for them.

The Owner shot and killed one thug, then shot another one in the shoulder. The others ran away.

The thug who was shot in the shoulder went to the Emergency room, but refused to tell the ER how he got shot. Police put two and two together.

If one Googles store owners in Philly gets robbed and shoots at the perps, one will find other stories covering incidents such as this WAY before this incident.

Folks in Philly are getting fed up. I watched a Reporter last night covering Philly where a group of folks were ready for anyone trying to destroy their neighbood. Some of them were seen holding baseball bats.

Good for them.

just lurkin

The three things you say if you have to use a firearm in self defense:
!. I was afraid for my life
2. I want to cooperate
3. I want to speak to my attorney

Say nothing else, let your attorney do the rest of the talking for you.

5th/77th FA

Excellent advice jl, and most of us are aware of that, but it can always bear repeating. Here’s another sage one”

“Better to be judged by 12 than toted by 6.”

The inherwebs are full of stories such as this, but according to the spapos seagull, these are not organized attacks and the antifa boys and girls are just practicing civil disobedience.

Spapos showing up to squawk his drivel in 5.4.3.2..

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

Whenever Seagull DOES show up, PLEASE be sure to post that “squawking seagull” video. LOVE IT! Puts the perfect punctuation to everything he posts.

Comm Center Rat

Sound advice proven effective by cops involved in shootings all across America.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

The first thing you say is get me to the hospital I have chest pains or don’t feel good. This gives you time to slowly go over what you are going to say to the investigator so you won’t get caught in a perjury trap. When I had to be NYS certified every two years to carry a firearm while I was with Brink’s, each instructor we had was a LEO who taught these classes on their “side” jobs and this is what an NYPD Officer was advised to say when involved in a shooting. This morning WFTL 850AM radio had the story about a Liquor store owner who was standing outside his store on the Santa Monica Wharf with a rifle protecting the store with what was said to be an AR type rifle. Anyone hear the same about this??. Then they had the Florida Polk County Sheriff telling the antifa peeps that Polk County was heavily armed and that anyone trying to break into a home would be blown back out the front door. This was live this morning. Also mentioned that in Richmond VA, Fire units responding to a house fire were blocked by cars from getting to the scene and a couple of PO’s got to the house and removed the occupant/occupants from the dwelling. It wasn’t mentioned if the person/persons were trapped or not. Maybe the responding units should have pushed the blocking cars out of the way with their rigs. Just saying. In Long Beach LI, we had a couple of jobs where cars were parked in front of the hydrants so the pump operator took out the car windows with a flathead and ran the steamer line to the hydrant through the car windows, but if the coupling isn’t really tight, you will get a spray around the coupling which goes into the car’s interior and that amounts to lots of H2O. Funny that very rarely did I ever see a loose hydrant coupling hook up when a car wasn’t blocking it. You TAH Fire Fighters out there know what I mean/GRIN.

just lurkin

Don’t “go over your story” because if you say nothing besides what I advised above you shouldn’t have to worry about a perjury trap. Once you have to use your weapon stop talking at all after you have said that you want to cooperate and were afraid for your life.

Then don’t talk to the police, as this professor explains it can only hurt you-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

ole cav doggie

pee your pants and make sure that fact gets into the police report….

just lurkin

You are under no obligation to help the police figure out what happened. Let your attorney figure out what facts are important to relate and what might help you or not. In the video I referenced upthread a law professor explains how even if you did nothing wrong and relay the facts faithfully it can still end up being used against you and a police detective turned law student backs him up. Say that you feared for your life and that you want to cooperate and then shut the hell up.

just lurkin

Sorry misinterpreted what you wrote, still don’t talk too much

Hondo

Kinda doubt that will happen, sheesh. One of the perps was armed and pointed a gun at the business owner (see the additional article linked below by ninja, which contains pertinent facts that NBC omitted in their article). According to that second account, only after observing a weapon being pointed in his direction did the owner fire. And a second firearm was recovered at the scene.

Hack Stone

Well, if anyone would have access to a “throwaway gun”, it would be the owner a firearms store. 😅😂🤣

It seems that the criminal element are slow learners. Quite a few videos out on Al Gore’s Amazing Internet were some enterprising young men decide to redistribute the inventory of gun stores, only for the results to go horribly wrong (for them).

gitarcarver

There is a great article on the Volokh Conspiracy written by legal people on this.

https://reason.com/2020/06/02/are-people-allowed-to-use-deadly-force-to-defend-property/

It is not as simple as “you can’t defend property with deadly force.” More of the total circumstances are taken into account.

David

also depends which state you are in, as well as the time of day.

Twist

One would think that a prosecutor would be less likely to prosecute someone who shot looters attempting to loot firearms than they would someone who shot looters trying to steal candy bars.

Combat Historian

I hope this gun store owner has enough willing friends and relatives to help him to continue the vigil at his business. I remember reading an article somewhere that on the first night of the Minneapolis riot, a business owner shot a looter trying to ransack his store. Several hours later, as he was away trying to clear this up with the cops, a bigger mob of rioters showed up at his business and looted it and burned it down…

ninja

Another news source on the Gun Range Owner protecting his store in Philly:

“Gun Range Owner Shoots, Kills Suspected Burglar In South Philadelphia”

https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/06/02/gun-range-owner-shoots-kills-suspected-burglar-in-south-philadelphia/

“A South Philly gun range owner shot and killed a suspected burglar inside his business early Tuesday morning. It happened around 4:15 a.m. at Firing Line, Inc., at 1532 S. Front St. in Pennsport.”

“He was inside of his gun shop overnight because someone had attempted to break in over the past few days,” Philadelphia Police Chief Inspector Scott Small said.”

“Philadelphia Police say a group of three or four men used bolt cutters to cut the lock to the gate and force open the door. They made their way to the second floor, where the 67-year-old owner was armed and waiting, after seeing the men on his surveillance camera.”

“One of the males pointed a gun at the owner, and that’s when the owner of the gun shop, who was in possession of one of his guns, fired several shots, striking the one male at least one time in the head,” Small said. Police recovered a semi-automatic handgun near the man.”

“Medics pronounced the man dead at the scene. The others ran away. Another man with a gunshot wound to the shoulder showed up to Jefferson Hospital in Center City a short time later.”

“Investigators are working to determine if he was involved in the burglary.”

“Nothing was taken. Police say the owner is shaken, but is OK and was interviewed by homicide detectives.”

Mason

You’re going to see more of this with the government either unwilling or unable to maintain law and order.

I’m worried if it gets much worse that we’ll see the militia types arm up and march in to defend the residents of the besieged cities.

Toxic Deplorable Racist SAH B Woodman

Where are the rooftop Koreans when ya need ’em?

11B-Mailclerk

Rooftop Americans

Those were Rooftop Americans.

ninja

The Corona Virus has been replaced by the Antifa Virus.

So much for 6 feet social distancing and limiting folks to only 10.

Churches get fined. A Hairdresser was sent to Jail. A Barber lost his license.

But it is alright to gather together to protest, not being 6 feet apart.

Stay At Home orders. Folks were fined for that. Yet, folks ignored curfews.

So many contradictions.

Mason

Yup. The same politicians that targeted churches for having more than 10 people show up for worship are tacitly supporting the violent insurrections by their inaction.

Jerky Dave

Polk County Florida’s Sheriff Grady Judd had this to say:

“I would tell them, if you value your life, they probably shouldn’t do that in Polk County. Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns, I encourage them to own guns, and they’re going to be in their homes tonight with their guns loaded, and if you try to break into their homes to steal, to set fires, I’m highly recommending they blow you back out of the house with their guns. So, leave the community alone,”

Nuff said!

Combat Historian

Can’t wait to retire from civil service in 2 years and move out of my violet blue shithole city, county, and state. Lakeland, Polk County, just added to my list of moving destinations to be explored…

ninja

The ninja family hears you, CH.

We plan to move from the State we currently live in (overtaken by Carpetbaggers) after retirement and move FURTHER South where Folks enjoy College Football, BBQ and shooting Guns.

Plus, cheaper Taxes, less expensive homes and less Carpetbaggers.

Twist

Minus College Football, those are big reasons why I live in Alaska. We are more into hunting and fishing than we are College Football, plus UAF and UAA don’t have football programs to be proud of.

A Proud Infidel®™

Northwest Florida is diehard deep Red State America as well.

The Other Whitey

One of my cousins recently retired from CHP and just bought a beautiful house in Tennessee. By his own account, the first order of business is to decide which room will be the gun vault. Step 2 will be to advise his new neighbors that while he’s from California, he’s not *that* kind of Californian.

As for me, I can’t retire for another 14 years anyway. My wife loves Idaho, but she will never be willing to move away from her parents and sisters. Besides, if we leave, the hippies win. My Irish stubbornness just won’t accept that.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Jerky Dave;

I heard the same thing on WFTL this morning and made a mention about it on my above comment which is 11 comments above yours. I added it in without reading all the comments. On catching your comment, you covered the whole ball of wax on what the Sheriff said. BZ. I’m down In West Delray, not the city of Delray Beach. Quiet so far in the retirement community so far.

5th/77th FA

Welcome South Buddies (a playoff on the original Welcome South Brother WSB AM 750), the FIRST Commercial Radio Station in God’s Earthly Country. We got room here, plus SEC Football (hbtd/rtr), the best Peaches, hot boiled/dry roasted peanuts, cornbread, cat headed biscuits, grillable beasties, and most of the carpetbaggers and scalawags are in the metro areas. Did I mention pretty girls and sipable stump water? And real BBQ (not cookouts). And more rifle ranges than golf courses. Mountains 2 hours north and the sunny beaches 2 hours east. The Son of a beech is 3000 miles west. C U SOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The light is left on.

Roh-Dog

Something goes bump-in-the-night here at Camp Roh-Dog, a very nice commercial district in a well-heeled suburb, the crims will be met by a retired Expert/Combat Infantrydude with NODs, IR laser and a topped off AR…
Brass and bodies.
Im begging you, with tears in my eyes, don’t give me a reason to apply my craft.

11B-Mailclerk

When things go bump in the night,

We bump back.

Roh-Dog

Amen, Brother, Amen.
In this case it may be more of a crackpfftcrackpfft..crackpfft.
Two to the center mass, one to the dome, quietly.

11B-Mailclerk

(Looks at Garand rifle)

“Sub-sonic?”

The Other Whitey

.30-06 is very economical. You might get three or four for the price of one! Maybe more! With a very satisfying “CHING” at the end.

And I find the M1 to be a great choice for those of us in states with fascist restrictions on ARs. Especially if you stick something long and sharp on the end!

timactual

I really enjoy that. Thanks.

PS
I don’t pay royalties.

A Proud Infidel®™

My neighborhood is chock full of Vets who stay locked and loaded, including me, anyone coming to my neck of the woods looking for trouble will leave either in an ambulance or a Coroner’s Van.

Thunderstixx

This is just sickening.
I’m watching YouTube pretty much full time now.
I can’t stand reading about it, watching it on TV or even thinking about it.\
This is a direct result of the clowns that have led this country since 1992 with the present leader of America being the only one to actually fight back against the tide of “progs”…..

ninja

Thunderstixx:

The ninja family hears you.

We are now getting burned out seeing TV Commercials about staying home.

Don’t know which is worse-too many TV commercials on Covid 19 Lockdown or Lawyers and Mesomenotha or whatever that disease is.

Burned out on watching BOTH local and Fox News.

What saved us was watching SPACEX.

Thank goodness we are fortunate to have Cable TV where we can watch The History Channel, the American History Channel, TVLand to watch The Andy Griffith Show and another network to watch Gunsmoke.

And of course, Jeopardy.

makeitstop

A Proud Infidel®™

I can’t stand the damned commercials on YouTube with people bragging about staying home!

Thunderstixx

I did too, so I just signed up for the Premium, it’s $12 a month and zero commercials !!!
What with the lack of anything good on cable, this one decided to go ahead and take the plunge.
There’s a ton of great stuff on there.

Twist

The History Channel? You mean the Pawn Stars, Counting Cars, and American Pickers channel? When History started going the way of MTV with all the reality shows I started watching H2 (History Channel 2) which actually was about history until they changed it to Vice channel.

OWB

With you, T. It is so bad around here that I had to go have a sit down with some (veteran) friends yesterday. We commiserated and went about our business. They understood my need to vent as no other friends would.

Will be very glad when this mess subsides. I miss my multicultural life! My immediate neighbors are mostly white but not bigots, or they wouldn’t tolerate me and the parade of various ethnicities that usually come and go at Casa OWB.

Oh, well.

Thunderstixx

There is a good recap of the riot and the stupid people doing all kinds of stupid crap with impunity listed out at Instapundit.com.
It’s pretty all encompassing but I’ll put a short list on at the end of this post.
This has nothing to do with race relations, this is only about overthrowing the government we have and installing one that fits with the new world order according to the left turds wishes and judgement.
We’re heading down a long dark path right now. This is totallyt out of hand now.
If it’s a revolution or civil war, it’s going to be interesting…
Here’s the list from Instapundit.
THAT WAS THE RIOT THAT WAS: Veteran blogger and Instapundit reader Pierre Legrand emailed a massive core dump of video clips of the past several days’ events:

Have tried to post these in DISQUS and it pukes everytime I try. This needs to be posted so we can keep track of it.

Not sure this will work out but I want to post this list of terror attacks before it’s deleted.

Man stomped and stoned for trying to defend a bar from being looted

https://streamable.com/xkcvkk

Destroying store and beating unarmed woman and her husband

https://streamable.com/rvrwil

Beating and stomping guy on the ground Santa Monica

https://streamable.com/x6ue5x

Restaurant manager beaten and stomped for trying to defend his workplace

https://streamable.com/ila4dh

Stopping, beating and stomping a truck driver while protesters yell to kill him

https://streamable.com/8zk9dq

Protesters attack a media member and then pummel him

11B-Mailclerk

Key concept:

Unarmed equals victim.

Be willing and able. It may save your life.

11B-Mailclerk

Protesters denounce violence instigators.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/protesters-violence-george-floyd

(Whites in Black trying to “help” Blacks by getting Blacks hassled by Blues in black-n-whites)

11B-Mailclerk

Protesters protect a target from looters

https://www.foxnews.com/us/brooklyn-protesters-defended-target-from-looting-riot

Also comments on the instigators. Blamed “NYPD plainclothes”. However, false flag is likely the usual suspects. “Pretend to be cops” is certainly in the agitator’s bag of tricks.

Devtun

Santa Monica liquor store owner armed w/ AR-15, along w/ some friends & customers, stood guard in front of the store.

https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/06/01/santa-monica-owner-defends-his-store-with-guns-amid-looting/

11B-Mailclerk

“AR” equals “anti-riot”.

Ex-PH2

The looters are using protests as a cover and an excuse for doing what they are doing, which is breaking into and looting stores and ripping off everything they can carry. They’re bringing big cartons with them to carry more of the stuff they’ve stolen.

They forget one thing: there are cameras all over the place, and once this asinine crap is over with, the pohlease people will be looking for them.

They aren’t protesting George Floyd’s death. Those who are doing that are peaceful and quiet about it, and aren’t breaking into stores and looting the place. These are nothing but common criminals who deserve to be caught and punished.

Commissar

Yeah, let’s focus on the rioters. The fact the vast majority of the protestors in the 140+ cities are not rioting and looting is lost on you all.

Because you want to create an excuse structure to blame and hate them.

Because you see anyone opposing police violence or anyone opposing your president as bad guys.

What about the absolutely peaceful crowd of protestors trampled with tier gas, rubber bullets, and riot police yesterday in front of the White House.

Why aren’t you 1st Amendment advocated talking about that?

All so President can have a photo op holding the Bible upside down as a prop.

Why the hell is that not something that pisses you off?

It is bullshit to constantly put so much effort into trying to find excuses to to discredit the protests.

They are not to blame for people exploiting this to loot. The looting is happening outside the protest areas at this point.

It is not being done by people at the protests.

Rioting against government abuse has a long AMERICAN PATRIOTIC tradition. We were founded by revolutionary rioters.

And after what I saw the president and the attorney general do yesterday…

I think all future rioting directed at abuse of power is completely and utterly justified.

Fuck the looters. Shoot them for all I care.

The protestors and rioters are patriots after last night.

5th/77th FA

spapos, what took you so long?

OldManchu

That tier gas is some ruff stuff.

11B-Mailclerk

That was dumb, even by ragepost standards, even by yours.

Rioters =/= protesters.

No one here I see advocating stopping protests. I attend the occasional one myself. You might be surprised.

Doesn’t your arm get tired setting up and pounding all those strawmen?

We shame violent nincompoops, and their cheerleaders, who think it is Ok to break people’s stuff and set fire to their buildings. Including ones we want to exist to keep violent anti-civilization yahoos under control.

Grow up. You embarrass anyone who ever wore an Army nametape.

You couldn’t keep it civilized for a week without reverting to type.

No one buys your apologies and excuses for the thugocracy you seem to want unleashed.

You don’t get to redefine words so you can appear correct, or smart for that matter.

Grow the frell up, Major.

Commissar

Bullshit.

You all spent the last week saying the rioters, the looters, and the protestors are all the same people.

That has been the persistent single minded agenda this entire week.

Discredit the protests.

You don’t get to pretend you all have had the reasoned view on this.

And if you are not infuriated about what happened in front of the White House last night then it says all I need to know about your claims of “small government”.

11B-Mailclerk

Another strawman? Shame on you.

I have done nothing of the sort. You dont get to redefine things to meet your fantasy world.

Twist

Post a link to anyone on here saying the rioters, the looter, and the protestors are the same people.

I’ll wait.

Blaster

What I read above doesn’t say anything about protesting. It’s about rioting.

Try decaf

Retired Grunt

That individual was a Major?

Commissar

Patriot first.

You forgot what that means.

One thing it means is when the president and.attoreny general order federal police to attack unarmed peaceful protestors exercising their right to assemble and address grievances in front of the White House… it should piss you off.

But you are not angry, are you?

Because you see the protestors as critical of your leader.

Political opponents.

The enemy.

Retired Grunt

I beg you, don’t impune my patriotism, honor, integrity etc.. I have absolutlely no problems with peaceful protests. I do not respect rioters because riots have a real easy way of getting out of hand. I also do not respect looters, unfortunately many people use riots as a reason to steal hopefully consequence free. I am not angry, I am honestly fearful that this may grow beyond control and I would just rather live the rest of my days in peace. So, For the most part I leave you alone I was just inquiring if your rank was really major. I’ve seldom said a bad word against you, I’ve just watched your dialog with others so lift and shift your fire.

Retired Grunt

I was ANGRY at being locked in my house for two months and at 1 point told I couldn’t even go see my own family. That’s when I was angry. I was angry when people could go buy lottery tickets liquor abortions and weed but they couldn’t go see their own kids or get a haircut or go in for any type of elective surgery that might actually help their way of life that’s when I was angry. I didn’t burn down a building and go inside and take somebody else’s property when I was angry but I did protest.

11B-Mailclerk

I have -not- conflated them

Note my posts above. Read them. Go on.

Did I cite the actions of protesters in three of them?

Were those -positive- actions, like defending a cop and stopping criminals?

You arrogant ass. Criticize me for what I said if you like. Leave me out of your delusions.

And note that it is -you- conflating the actions of peaceful folks, many of them minorities, who chose to protest, as is their right, conflated them with violent and larcenous rioting shitbags.

Oops, much?

Blaster

“Oops, much?“

Nope. About right!

NHSparky

The protestors and rioters are patriots after last night.

And with that statement, you have lost any and all credibility that you had left (which wasn’t much.)

GDIAF.

Commissar

There is a point where rioting is morally justified.

Our founders knew that.

Your forgot or never learned.

Our president ordered federal law enforcement to openly attack unarmed peaceful protestors and media in order to do a charade of a phot shoot using the Bible as a prop.

As far as I am concerned that abuse of power blew right across any line the American people should accept.

5th/77th FA

spapos!

A Proud Infidel®™

You’re a brainwashed cultist Commissar, plain and simple, you don’t even THINK about anything outside of what your handlers and propagandists feed you!

Fyrfighter

Watch the whole thing Commissar, they were told to move / disperse, that is a lawful order. Secret Service has a duty to protect the President, and moving the crowd that refuses to do so on their own falls under that. Also rocks and such were being thrown. Your narrative is false.

JarHead Pat

I`ll just say it, your a commie cunt. Here in Seattle all we ever have are Antifa assholes burning and looting, and when they do get arrested, your commie libtard judges just let them go, look what your cunt friends did to Andy Ngo, peaceful my ass you commie cunt.

Commissar

Not a commie.

The political economy I support has more freedom then we have now.

And sure as shit more liberty than the bullshit you advocate.

SFC D

I see that you didn’t dispute the second portion of JarHead Pat’s name for you. Thank you for admitting what we all knew.

The Other Whitey

You could maybe say that about protestors. Not without disagreement, but you could make a case.

Rioters? No. Rioters don’t give a fuck about George Floyd or anyone else. Their violence is disproportionately affecting those you claim they represent. Some of them have murdered people. Almost all of them are thieves and looters. They are pieces of shit, and so are you, you fucking cocksucker.

Are you handing out bricks to random black kids hoping to get them shot? How’s about you try throwing one yourself, and do it somewhere where everybody won’t just cower and hide, you nutless fucking coward!

Commissar

I agree with everything you said.

But moving forward, after the abuse of power I saw last night…

Rioting is morally justified.

Our founders knew there was a line that the crown could cross that made rioting and civil unrest a moral act.

They institutionalized it, and wrote extensively about it. Even passed the 2nd amendment to ensure that the public had the power to push back against government abuse.

If you think it is ok for citizens to take up arms against the abuse of power, then it is nonsense to claim rioting is never ok.

SFC D

If those “morally justified” riots begin to threaten my family or home, then I will be morally justified to stop them. You can’t justify thuggery and destruction along the same lines as the American Revolution. Looters and rioters are not fighting for any cause other than their own satisfaction.

Who the fuck ever thought it was a good idea to commission you as an Army Officer.

David

There have been officer asswipes as long as I have known the Army… knew one who eventually became a female general. Was an officious ignoramus then, and stayed one. Lars follows in the fine tradition of commissioned jerks.

The Other Whitey

An Army officer in the fine tradition of William Calley.

HMCS(FMF) ret

DAMN…..

5th/77th FA

Braxton Bragg!

SFC D

CPT Williams, commander of Firebase Gloria!

The Other Whitey

Who really should have listened to First Sergeant Jones!

Just watched it again on Amazon the other night. That was my son’s namesake’s favorite movie, because in his words “Marines have to save the Army’s ass!”

When I would point out that the Army Air Cav then had to save the Marines’ ass in the second half of the movie, his reply would be, “Yeah, well…the Marines saved the Army first!”

rgr769

Let’s not forget the company C.O. responsible for securing FSB Mary Anne the night it was overrun with NVA sappers and assault teams while his men were all asleep in their bunkers.

A Proud Infidel®™

Wesley Clark!

HMCS(FMF) ret

DAMN… talk about hitting bottom and tunneling.

SFC D

I have known my share, most were just arrogant, ignorant pricks. Many outgrew that and had fine careers. Some never learn and leave the service. But this guy, willfully and repeatedly leaves a particularly foul and malodorous pile of steamy shit on the honor and fidelity of Officers of any branch. It takes practice and a conscious effort to attain and maintain a level of assholeyness this high. I’m convinced there’s a genetic anomaly to blame, some seriously fucked-up DNA.

The Other Whitey

They are not taking up arms against tyranny, dipshit. They’re looting and burning private businesses and homes, as well as assaulting citizens on the street. And your Anqueefa heroes are playing the agent-provocateur role, trying to get more people hurt and killed, because dead black kids fuel your revolution.

Tell me, asslick, am I an oppressor? I respond whenever somebody calls 911. The people I respond for frequently don’t look like me. Sometimes it’s someone whom I consider a piece of shit (and they do look like me, often as not). Sometimes they’re illegals. You know how I act and operate? The same as I would for my own friends and neighbors. Hell, I’d even do it for you. Just like everyone else in my profession. So why are these assholes throwing bricks and Molotov cocktails at fire engines? Don’t give me that empty shit about “represent the establishment.”

How many of the homes and businesses currently either burning or ash are/were owned by “oppressed” minorities? I’ll tell you: damn near all of them. The other night in Richmond, VA your “heroes” lit a residential building on fire with kids in it, then blocked responding engines from reaching the scene. Suppose the first-due company officer decided “Fuck it, runs these bastards over if they don’t get out of the way!” You’d be calling him a murderer for trying to save a child from death at the hands of these “patriots.”

You don’t have a leg to stand on, Taylor. You don’t even have an ass to sit on.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

TOW; I’ve got your back 100% on your comment. I did 30 active years as a Volley in 2 LI, NY FD Depts and when the horns or plectrons went off and I was not at my regular job, I responded during all hours day and night going to all the sections in our district whether white or black. In my last Dept which spanned 25 years, two incidents I can remember. One was we received a call for a house fire in the middle of the night in the north Long Beach area which is primarily black and when we arrive, I think it was only a can job so we were ready to leave and two guys show up and one asks us what we were doing in his neighborhood so the Chief or our officer tell them that we were their for a fire call and the guy who was doing all the talking got a little loud and turns out he was a little intoxicated so his friend grabs him by the arm and starts to pull him away and gave us this look which meant my friend is an ass hole. At another job we had in the same neighborhood, the mother and her small son were standing outside the fire building and she told the Chief her sons dog was still inside, so after the fire was K/D and I did some overhaul, a couple of members came upstairs and took over and as I was leaving, I asked the mother if she got the dog back which she didn’t so on a hunch, I went upstairs and saw the bathroom was pretty much clean and I noticed the old bath tub standing there and bent over the tub and there in the corner between the wall and tub was this little puppy so i was able to pick it up and put it inside my rubberized coat (no bunker gear in those days) due to the water coming down from the ceiling. Got outside and gave it to the kid and he was… Read more »

The Other Whitey

So no shit, there I was! It was the summer of 2004 and I, 20 years old and on my third season as a Firefighter-1, was wiping down the table after dinner at our small station near the Mexican border. The quick-call tones sound, the ECC says it’s a residential structure fire. We run out to the bay, throw on turnouts, and climb on the back* of the engines (two at that station). We roll up at scene to find a single-story house, a bit run-down but by no means a shithole, with smoke showing from the kitchen. The next-door neighbor is spraying a garden hose in the door, doing what he can. We BA up, charge a line, and make entry. The neighbor’s garden hose managed to hold it in check to room & contents, so we got a quick knockdown. Kitchen was totaled, living room messed up, but both bedrooms were undamaged. So we’re feeling pretty good about it until the residents get home: husband, wife, and daughter roughly 7 years old. The little girl sees the damage and thinks they’ve lost everything. She bursts into tears. Never before in my life and only rarely since have I felt so absolutely useless as I did seeing that despairing little girl. I wanted to tell her that it would be okay, but I had no idea how or what to say to her. Neither did the other guys. Her parents tried to comfort her to no avail. Every tear she wept was a knife in my guts. Then, thank God, Ashley (our one female firefighter on that shift) stepped up. She explained to the girl that it wasn’t as bad as it looked, her room was just fine, all they really needed was a new TV and refrigerator. Soon, the little girl was smiling again. A few minutes later as I was stowing tools back on the rig, she runs up, hugs me, and says, “Fireman, thank you for saving my toys!” I hugged her back. She moved on to the next guy, while I tried not to let… Read more »

SFC D

You’re a good man, TOW.

Thunderstixx

Good story.
Thanks for posting it.
More reasons I like to hang at this place.

Fyrfighter

Great story TOW!

11B-Mailclerk

God bless you and keep you.

A Proud Infidel®™

HEY POOKUMS, have you heard that the vast majority of the looters and rioters arrested in Minneapolis were from out of town? It’s very likely that they are paid useful idiots employed by the likes of George Soros. It’s YOUR SIDE of the political fence that riots and violence come from, have you ever heard of rapes, drug use, rioting, looting, etcetera at a Tea Party Rally or any other gathering of Conservatives? The greenie-weenies on your side of the fence always leave a location looking like a landfill after one of their rallies as well. Look at San Foo-foo where you can get in trouble for possessing or using a plastic straw while you can defecate in the street as well as shoot up there and throw your used needle on the sidewalk, BUT DON’T EVEN THINK of Vaping there because THAT’S illegal. DO this world a favor and DO NOT reproduce, Seagull!

Commissar

I am not defending looters and rioters up to and until 1845 EST, June 1st 2020.

After that… morally justified.

SFC D

You are morally bankrupt.

Please, do not reproduce.

11B-Mailclerk

In other words, you went looking for an excuse to cross that last line, and now you are going to claim you were pushed.

26Limabeans

And for God’s sake don’t let the facts get in the
way of the truth.

A Proud Infidel®™

Ooh, the D-rats cannibalizing each other, if Schadenfreude was an intoxicant, I’d likely be passed out from it about now!

Mason

“Displace the mayor.” So De Blasio is looking at being forcefully kicked out of his mayorship and being replaced with a military dictatorship at the direction of Cuomo.

Unbelievable.

Wireman611

So where did all the pallets of bricks placed in the riot struck cities come from? Rioters are heroes my butt.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Bet you that little fat Nazi lover Soros had a chunk of change invested in that shit…

5th/77th FA

Good picture of the antifa rioters and their ear phone communicators. But they’re not organized!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3258879187490140&set=a.486926554685431&type=3&theater

26Limabeans

Now there’s a job for a few Signal Guys.
You can pack a lot of RF in a rucksack.

SFC D

Saturate the GMRS and FRS bands with a high wattage SCREEEEEEE very similar to the sounds emanating from the seagull. Wouldn’t be that difficult. I’m in. Onward! For the glory of the Signal Corps! Do it till your gigahertz!

26Limabeans

EMP is doable. Sidle up to your target
and fry his receiver. Nobody gonna know.

But yeah broadband square wave generator
will do the trick. Be funny watching them slap
the side of their heads.

“can you hear me now?”

SFC D

Hmmm… now I’m thinking we broadcast Ronald Reagan speeches over all FRS and GMRS freqs…

26Limabeans

Maybe this:

comment image

or this:

https://youtu.be/j6RSL8hHEj8?t=1

HMCS(FMF) ret

A Proud Infidel®™

Maybe that’s one of Soros’s herders/handlers?

5th/77th FA

There was a boat load of those kinda pictures, and some videos showing the antifa people holding their hands to their ears and talking as they were passing out money, spray paint cans and other items last night and the night before. For some reason *cough cough* that stuff has disappeared. The one I did post was a screen shot (?) that someone had saved and sent thru a feed I was able to lurk on. My lurking on the book of fake is a fixin’ to come to a screeching halt possibly. May make a difference in what I can find.

Anybody else notice that since Mr Floyd’s Baby Mama (?) and a 6 year old daughter showed up, his fiancee that had been all over the news feeds is gone. I really hope that these people are not exploiting that innocent child for their other purposes. This family was in Houston, he had been in Minn/SP for a good little while from what I had read earlier.

Commissar

I am to damn angry to even try to deal with you fucks today.

The fact that you are OK with the president’s clownish authoritarian actions last night says everything that needs to be said about this crowd.

5th/77th FA

spapos…just 4 you!

Commissar

5th/77th FA

ninja

KoB & Commissar:

😆😅🤣😂😉😎!!!!

You BOTH crack me up!

PLEASE keep ’em coming!

A Proud Infidel®™

I’d hate to see the mess made when that Gull shits out what’s left of that pigeon!

ninja

OK.

I am not going to lie.

I admit I laughed when I saw your video, Commissar.

Let’s face it. You are gonna stick to your assessment of what is currently going on.

Other TAH members as well as myself are sticking to what we firmly believe.

I know deep in my heart that you enjoy reading TAH as well as posting here. Nothing wrong sharing different opinions.

I have to give you credit for debating and bantering with us. Personally, I have Zero interest in participating in a Blog that has folks with your same beliefs, let alone bantering my viewpoints with them.

Heck, I even stay away from Army VS Navy Blogs or Alabama VS Auburn Blogs or Christianity VS Atheist/Agnostic Blogs or ProLife VS ProChoice Blogs.

In other words,just as changing the Channel on TV, I have the Freedom to interact with whom I choose.

So again, Commissar, I truly believe you enjoy reading and posting on TAH. You really like us.

😉😎

NHSparky

And yet here you are.

You realize all your problems would be solved if you just went and played in traffic, yes?

HMCS(FMF) ret

He gets off on being verbally abused here… a form of mental masturbation for him.

Blaster

Too!

There you go,,,,, theeerrreee yooouuu go!

Commissar

Oh, and in all the protests…

Most of the violence is being perpetrated by police against protestors and media.

You can ragemall you want abut themrioting…

And I am with you on raging about the looting…

But the violence? Why the hell are you not raging about that? It is not the protestors beating the snot out of cops.

Because you know it is the cops being violent at the protests.

Shooting pepper balls into moving vehicles in traffic, shooting tier gas at eye level, beating protestors with batons while they are on the ground, baton rounds close range at faces, literally blinding a reporter – for life….

Oh, you didn’t see any of this happening? Because you and your right wing authoritarian sources spend hours searching for evidence of things you can use to discredit the protests.

Serving the interests of the state as it abuses it citizens.

Freedom loving “patriots”?

Bullshit.

Complicit tools of a government that is out of control.

Sapper3307

But we need our weave?

Sapper3307

Is Bernasty still your copilot?
OVER

5th/77th FA

spapos!!!

Commissar

A Proud Infidel®™

Here’s how most of us picture you:

5th/77th FA

spapos 4 u!

A Proud Infidel®™

Another Shit-O-Matic®™ flying garbage disposal bites the dust!

11B-Mailclerk

I keep telling you that rage is not helping your efforts, at all.

Neither are your left-of-alpha-Centauri strawmen.

But you are not here to discuss or persuade, are you.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Wow.. now we’re bringing in stars to the conversation. Had to go for Alpha Centarui… couldn’t go for Sirius, T-Tauri or RR Lyrae. Wolf 359 would have been good…

11B-Mailclerk

He is far left, but not far enough to save himself if his comrades win. They are running to the observable limit at warp 10.

Penguinman000

Ah, painting an entire group as the other and lesser. Accuse the other of crimes, being unpatriotic, and unworthy of citizenship. Throw in a dash of “truth” by leaving out context or key facts.

Goebbels would be proud. Especially for selective truth. That takes talent and effort to apply properly.

I am done dealing with you. You lack the ability to engage in thoughtful debate or the fortitude to see your ideas challenged. You are a time sink.

Now I’m off to support civilization over barbarians. Wood shampoos for everyone!

Commissar

Yet, still, you have nothing to say about the abuse of power and abuse of citizens in front of the White House?

I was right to lump you in with the rest.

You earned it. Own it.

5th/77th FA

Own this spapos!

NHSparky

Which abuse might that be, dipshit?

David

When the protesters pushed past the barricades set up around the White House, according to the Washington Post. Guess pushing past barricades and police lines is a bad idea? Who knew?

A Proud Infidel®™

Just ask Commissar and he’ll tell you and I that they’re just fighting the EVIL oppression of “The Great Evil Orange Man” wanting to turn the rest of America into the lovely Utopia that say, San Foo-foo and Berzerkely are!

Twist

I’m still waiting for him to post a link to where anybody on here who were saying that the rioters and looters are the same as the protesters like he claimed. I know for a fact that he won’t backup his bullshit claim.

NHSparky

So the cops have done all the looting and set all the fires?

NOW YA FUCKIN TELL ME!!!

A Proud Infidel®™

NO SHIT, know-it-all Comrade Seagull SAYS that this is ALL the doing of the Po-po and Government and since he knows it all, it’s now time for us to turn off the lights and go to bed.

Mason

The dead cops and cops in the hospital from all this righteous outrage rioting would disagree with you.

You sink to new lows daily. Take your bullshit and leave, like Jonn asked you to.

Fyrfighter

Yeah, I’ve got numerous family members in the line of fire in Philly right now, including the children of the Aunt and Uncle we lost to the Bat Soup Flu. Those two are even too afraid to go out of their house to assess the damage.
I am truly concerned for them, regardless of the fact that they otherwise support the groups that are destroying their neighborhoods, and have voted for the dems that are allowing this.
Other cousins, from the other side of the family live a bit farther south, and had rioting and looting within a mile of their house. They too were quite concerned, but cousin, wife, and adult son were all locked and loaded, so not nearly as concerned for them.
For anyone else with family members in harms way because of these terrorists, May God watch over and keep them safe.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Amen…

11B-Mailclerk

Apparently, it is possible to throw off the self-inflicted left-dumb and reform.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/gabriel-nadales-antifa-radical-failed-socialist-ideology

So much for the propaganda others spew.

Slow Joe

Oh dmmt.

I hate it when you are right.

Ok. Maybe is possible for some Leftists to redeem themselves and see how wrong their evil ideology is.

11B-Mailclerk

Redemption is always possible.

Hack Stone

Just wondering if his favorite show was The Bing Bang Theory.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/atm-explosion-philadelphia/2416372/

Commissar

https://thewest.com.au/news/north-america/george-floyd-killing-australian-news-crew-bashed-by-us-police-outside-white-house-ng-b881565074z

This is what what our allies saw last night…

Unprovoked and unconstitutional abuse of peaceful protestors and media by police operating under direct orders from the president and attorney general.

This forum decided to cobble together anecdotes about looters. Which both sides oppose and protestors hate even more because they discredit the protests.

But the true abuse of power? Silence.

Where is you voice “patriots”?

ninja

Commissar:

To be honest with you, as Rhett Butler said to Scarlott O’Hara:

“Frankly My Dear, I Don’t Give A Damn.”

😉😎

Commissar

Unfortunate.

There will come a day you will realize what a low point in American history that was.

And Trump stupidly and awkwardly standing with an upside down and backwards Bible in his hand for a photo op will be a picture that will make you cringe in shame for your absurd support of a narcissistic sociopath clown and con artist.

His historical legacy was sealed for millennia with that picture,

And you are unable to see you are on the wrong side of history.

A Proud Infidel®™

A CNN Reporter and his crew were arrested as well, so BIG WHOOP!

ninja

Commissar:

I truly, honestly don’t care what other Countries think of us.

BTW, I have lived longer than you, so I have a bit more experience than you.

History? Well, let’s just say I have a Double Undergraduate Degree, with History and Social Sciences as one of my Majors as well as teaching American and World History at High School level.

Hey, it is your right not to like President Trump. I could not and still can’t stand BHO, yet somehow, I put up 8 years of that person without spewing hatred. Not my style.

The Other Whitey

It doesn’t matter, Ninja. Lars knows more about history than you. He knows more about fire suppression/prevention than me. He knows more about naval aviation than naval aviators. The list goes on and on. Just ask him.

ninja

TOW:

😆😅🤣😂👍👍😉😎!!!

11B-Mailclerk

As Mr Reagan said of folks like that, he knows so much, that just isn’t so.

A Proud Infidel®™

He’d tell you that he traveled back in time to help Albert Einstein discover his Theory of Relativity with just a D Cell flashlight and a piece of licorice if you asked him! IMHO he’s brainwashed like some crazy religious cultist and flatly refuses to think outside of his hive mindset.

5th/77th FA

What Rhett said! And what Ron White said too! Here’s your sign

gitarcarver

Commisar,

The “peaceful protestors” you mention…..are they the same ones that set fire to St John’s Church?

We those protestors the same ones that broke the fronts of windows in the area?

As for the news crew, they were told to move back and pulled the “you’re not the boss of me” routine.

You are correct that there have been some abuses, and those abuses are far too many for people’s liking.

What you are missing is that what comes off sometimes (not all the time but in cases such as the news crew) that what appears to be an “abuse” is in fact a legal response to illegal acts.

If the legal response bothers you (which it appears to be doing) you should talk to the initiators of the illegal acts.

For the illegal abuses, most people will agree with you that they are wrong and need to be dealt with. But your unwillingness to condemn the illegal acts of others says you have an agenda, rather than a moral stance.

A Proud Infidel®™

Let me guess, you’re going to lay the blame for ALL of this on the “Great Evil Orange Man”, aren’t you?

Commissar

No. Nonsense of it was caused by him or his responsibility.

Except last night, when he and the attorney general order government enforcement to attack unarmed and unquestionably peaceful protestors and the media so he could waddle down the street and awkwardly hold an upside down and backward Bible in the air in a stupid photo op to score political points with his mindless sycophantic base…

That is on him. And it was one of the worst and most direct abuses of power I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Unconstitutional. Unforgivable. Unacceptable.

That is the defining moment of his political legacy. The lowest point of a presidency that has constantly set lower and lower standards for presidential conduct and accountability.

Most American already saw him as a despot and con artist.

If it is not clear to the rest after last night then they aremgenuine authoritarians who support government abuse of power as long as it is directed against identity groups they don’t belong to. Especially perceived political opponents.

Like you, you are unquestionably a little authoritarian sycophant.

5th/77th FA

Twist

“when he and the attorney general order government enforcement to attack unarmed and unquestionably peaceful protestors”

Care to back up that claim with a source that says he or the AG ordered it? You are aware that it is the Secret Service that makes those calls, right? Of course anything to perpetuate your orange man bad narrative and support and defend your far left wing agitators and take away any culpability of your fellow travelers for their actions.

You are doing nothing more than using that as an excuse to be able to voice your support of the looters and rioters that you have held this entire time.

You are what you accuse other of being as well as a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

Ex-PH2

You expect the spapos AKA ceteros ciens vadit larum to provide proofs and back up what he’s posting?

Seriously, Twist? That’s too comical for words!!! You don’t really expect a authoritarian splodeydope to prove anthing, do you? If it happens, please let me know.

Twist

How silly of me. I don’t know if you remember him, but Lars reminds me a lot of Insipid who used to comment here.

A Proud Infidel®™

EX-PH2, I bet that you and the other Felinophiles here will get a kick out of this one. As I see it, the rest of us TAH Regulars®™ are like the Cat in this video, satisfies with life and enjoying it while Commissar is like the Seagull trying to upset others while screeching and pecking the glass of the window of life!

Hondo

Actually, on this one I tend to agree with you; that incident was bad, and likely should have been handled quite differently. But let’s take a look at who was “running the show” during that incident. Per this article, it appears the LE involved were (1) DC metro police; (2) US Park Police, and (3) “military police”. Photos in the article appear to indicate the military were from the DC ARNG. I don’t recall hearing of any Federalization order for the DC ARNG. Thus, any actions by DC ARNG troops are on their chain-of-command. Last time I checked, the DC National Guard answers to the DC Mayor when not in Federal service. The same is true for the DC metro police. They answer to the mayor. The US Park Police are indeed Federal LE. However, I strongly suspect they were there at the request of the DC Metro Police because of the need for additional LE personnel – although given DC’s general disfunction (both local and Federal), maybe not. The DC Mayor appears to have blamed “federal police” for the incident. While I’m reasonably certain that’s what the DC Mayor was told, at this point I’m not at all certain that’s actually what happened. Federal LE would be a very convenient scapegoat if someone from DC Metro or the DC ARNG actually were the ones that screwed up here. I’d love to know what actually happened, and who did what at what time. But absent video coupled with a lengthy investigation, I doubt we ever will. And maybe not even then. In any case: if the operation was joint LE with either DC Metro or the DC ARNG in charge, then the responsibility for the incident falls squarely on DC’s local government – not the Federal government. That should be the case for civil insurrection absent Federalization of the NG component involved. But as I said above, given DC’s general state of disfunction that’s not a given. FWIW: the above is largely true for ALL of the recent riots. State/local LE – and in some places non-Federalized NG troops –… Read more »

11B-Mailclerk

Abuse of minorities, in yet another Democrat run city?

I am shocked! How can this be a pattern?

Almost like they are -trying- to incinerate our society, eh?

Isn’t that just -weird-?

11B-Mailclerk

And I’m case som shiesskoph tries to twist that, it is the Donk politicians abusing, and the Donk politicians incineration, and the Donk politicians exploiting americans with built in sunscreen.

Again

The Other Whitey

Regarding those local authorities:

Minneapolis: run exclusively by democrats since 1973

Detroit: run exclusively by democrats since 1962

Los Angeles: one Republican mayor since 1961, otherwise run exclusively by democrats

Philadelphia: run exclusively by democrats since 1952

Baltimore: run exclusively by democrats since 1967

Chicago: run exclusively by democrats since 1931

St Louis: run exclusively by democrats since 1949

Need I go on?

A Proud Infidel®™

Meh, I DARE anyone and everyone to show me an urban crime and poverty-infested hellhole that hasn’t been lorded over by D-rats for decades! Memphis would fit nicely in that collection as well!

rgr769

In clearing the park the DC and park police deny they used any tear gas. But then the feathered mollusk gets his fake news from CNN and MSDNC. Also they were planning to clear the park and fence it off because of all the Secret Service and other WH officers hit with thrown projectiles. But the Shitbird will deny those inconvenient facts.

OWB

So, to recap:

Criminals continued their criminal activity last night. Peaceful protestors continued their peaceful (and totally legal, supported by everyone here) protests, following all laws and with the significant support of their local LEO’s. And our resident liar continues to lie about just about everything, projecting his/her/it’s delusions upon others.

Twist

Yep, that pretty well sums it up.

SFC D

Basically a normal Tuesday, then…

Roh-Dog

A protest can be peaceful and still be illegal.
I want to see my State Police year gassing the piss out of anyone shutting down a highway.
And if they’d like to take donations from the public to shoot these a holes with rubber bullets, I’ll head to the bank right meow!

Roh-Dog

*tear gassing.

just lurkin

I’m not saying Nassim Taleb was talking about anyone who posts here regularly in this essay-https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

But I’m not not saying that either.

Roh-Dog

This is directed at one individual and his ilk, who, in this Greatest Experiment, are pushing for ‘separate but equal’ and redistribution of money by force? These riots? All the ideas being touted by the ‘intellectual elite’ and a large chunk of the ruling class? And with those questions hanging in the room like a Taco Bell fart, what mechanisms by logic or the Constitution, or hell, YEARS of juris prudence support these actions?
I’ll save you the effort of looking it up: ain’t one.
Are you willing to throw out legal processes to achieve your goals? Sounds pretty anti-American to me…
Stop the BS and twisting of history, stop the button pressing and triggering.
You won’t enjoy the place your behaviors will take you.

Commissar

Nonsense.

Your statement is full of false assumptions, and complete failure to understand the kind of government and economy I advocate.

And the whole forced redistribution is nonsense, taxes are not forced redistribution.

Neither was paying your military paycheck while you served. Or the education benefits you received.

Or investing in the technology and infrastructure that made the internet, and your post, possible.

Society expects people to contribute. It is fundamental to the social contract. It is one of the moral foundations of the social contract. Without it society false into a state of nature, everyone for themselves.

You somehow think that the social contract only has a moral foundation if it is based on your incoherent vision of government. You don’t even know what you stand for at this point. You have become so brainwashed by decades of propaganda you don’t even remember what it looks like for a government to have a legitimate mandate to exist.

And the economy I advocate has a lot more market freedom than this end stage finance feudalist abomination we have now.

Roh-Dog

Bud, the ‘social contract’ begins and ends with safety and rights. Yes, government have the duty to act morally, with consent of the governed.
And I agree, we are seeing a slide toward feudalism but the answer ain’t residing in race riots and in the empty skulls of 20somthings/antifa/blm etc.
And this sucking the teat of the technocratic elite, begging for more surveillance has me doubting your sanity.
Let me get something though your thick brain box, I know precisely what I stand for and I’m willing to die for it, and if directed, make some grass grow.
Don’t test the resolve of Patriots my friend.

11B-Mailclerk

Note, like other Snake Oil salesmen, he is long on Glittering Generalities, but never reveals the actual ingredients.

Almost like he was trying to re-brand Thalidomide.

5th/77th FA

Twist

“Your statement is full of false assumptions, and complete failure”

So it’s basically like pretty much every comment you make on here?

A Proud Infidel®™

“Or investing in the technology and infrastructure that made the internet, and your post, possible.”

*DUUUUUHHHHH*, I thought that your hero Al Gore Junior invented the Internet!!!

“Society expects people to contribute.”

Yeah, I’ve been out in the Private Sector busting my balls for an honest living for many years, have you ever worked in it other than your stint working at a McGunk franchise?

11B-Mailclerk

Massa expects his slaves to pick cotton.

Then folks said “no”.

Commissar

Someone who was committing unprovoked violence against innocent people left this behind last night….

https://mobile.twitter.com/edfelten/status/1267838832298393602

It almost killed a little girl this morning.

Roh-Dog

Unsecured equipment ain’t ‘violence’.
The reason it was used was anti-American Leftist rioters attempting martyrdom.
Stalin would be proud about your attemptzropaganda.

Roh-Dog

And George Floyd killed himself, unlike Epstein.

Commissar

The people this was used against were peacefully assembling in front of the White House, dipshit.

They were not rioting. There was dozens of cameras rolling before and during the attack. Not a single instance of a rioter or violent protestor.

And that is not unsecured equipment, it is unexploded ordnance.

“Disgusting” does not even come close to describing your willingness to outright fucking lie to defend government abuse of its unarmed and peacefully assembling citizens.

You will literally say anything to justify government authority and abuse of power. Anything.

Pathetic. Spineless.

Twist

“your willingness to outright fucking lie”

So basically just like almost every comment you make on here

“You will literally say anything to justify”

So basically just like almost every comment you make on here justifying actions taken by the left wing.

You are and do exactly what you claim others are and are doing.

Goebbels would be so proud of you

Commissar

Bullshit.

The Other Whitey

Dispute it all you want, Lars, but it’s true. One need only read the shit you’ve posted, including all the shit you’ve posted and then denied posting, to see it.

Twist

Truth hurts you doesn’t it?

Still waiting for you to post a link of people on here saying that the rioters, the looters, and the protesters are all the same like you falsely claimed.

The fact that you can’t just proves that you are a liar.

Roh-Dog

If my boy JACK SHIT was here, he’d tell you what you really know.

5th/77th FA

But Roh, he doesn’t know your boy.

JACK SHIT

Commissar does not know me.

Roh-Dog

Ha! There he is!
Thanks for the a-ssist in summoning the Beast, FA!

11B-Mailclerk

I say,

I say,

I say that boy projects like an all night free movies screening at a large multiplex theater.

And not silent movies, either.

SSapper3307

Mom said clean your room or she will reset the WIFI password.

SFC D

It did not almost kill a little girl this morning. Look closely at the top of that stun grenade. You’ll notice something is missing. C’mon major*, you’re a trained military expert. Dazzle me with your knowledge.

*Lower case “m” intentional.

Commissar

Yeah, I noticed it well after I posted. Looks like the guy taped down the safety lever and then ended up ripping the entire fuse assembly and safety lever off the grenade before throwing it.

We don’t know if the flash charge was ripped out with the assembly do we?

All we know is it is unexploded ordnance. Picked up in a park. In our nation’s capitol. By a young girl.

The morning after government security committed an unprovoked and unconstitutional attack on an unarmed and peaceful assembly of citizens.

Anyway, I am taking a break from TAH for a while.

You all are pissing me off. And what I saw last night is indefensible. I genuinely see anyone defending, excusing, or dismissing it as scum.

A Proud Infidel®™

Yeahyeahyeah we know, it was placed there on purpose by an Evil Minion of The Great Evil Orange man, wasn’t it? XD

You have a thin skin, o brainwashed little cult minion!

SFC D

I’ve never been more proud to be scum. Deplorable scum, at that.

And it did not almost kill a little girl this morning.

Write when you find work.

A Proud Infidel®™

According to him, he hasn’t worked in the Private Sector other than his short stint working at a “McGunk” franchise!!!

11B-Mailclerk

So is TAH now “a wretched hive of scum and villiany”?

Where’s the Cantina?

Fyrfighter

Commissar, might want to look closer, the fuze assembly is gone. This is a dud.
Also, if you read past the first couple lines, the dad of this “little girl” says she was out with her boyfriend. Somehow i seriously doubt that a “little girl” is out in DC with her boyfriend. If that is actually the case, the father needs to be brought up on child endangerment.
Much more likely this was a teen or older, who should know enough to not pick up such stuff.

11B-Mailclerk

Those things are commercially available, right?

Was it a live item or an inert trainer?

Threat forces stage “incidents”.

ninja

This is for Commissar:

“WATCH: Louisville Police Release Video They Say Shows David McAtee Shooting At Officers”

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/2020/06/02/david-mcatee-louisville-police-release-shooting-video-what-shows/3122988001/

ninja

Commissar:

Have a question for you.

What are you gonna do if a bunch of thugs come to your neighborhood, throw bricks at your windows to gain entry to your home to steal your stuff, then set fires to your home with your pets inside?

Asking For A Friend

SFC D

Joe Biden says shoot them in the legs, not their hearts.

ninja

SFC D is correct.

I heard Joe Biden utter those words.

Well, Commissar? What do you think of that?

Also, how many “Black VS White” incidents took place during the Obama/Biden Administration?

Joe Biden has the audacity to cut down how President Trump is handling the riots?

He’s accussing President Trump of dividing our nation?

Give Me A Break.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Joey Ballsack has a long history of being a bigot in the Senate… and a liar.

Sapper3307

His dad will him them with his purse.

HMCS(FMF) ret

You mean murse… it’s what real deal SJW accessorize when they dress to”burn this muther down”.

Sapper3307

Thugs is racist codeword used by supremist.
SPLC
YOU ARE NOW A BIGGOT.

HMCS(FMF) ret

Sapper – he majored in bigotry at UC Bezerkeley…

Mason

They’ve been a racist organization for a while. They attack any minority who strays off the reservation.

ninja

This is for TOW and Fryfighter and our LEOs:

THANK YOU so much for everything you all do, risking your lives on a daily basis to support and protect your Communities.

Have Family Members that are Firefighters and LEOs. Admire them because of what they have to witness and go thru with their missons.

Just as School Teachers, Firefighters and LEOs are underpaid and overworked.

Salute To You All.

The Other Whitey

Obliged, Ninja. But I’m sitting this nonsense out on Baby Leave (not that I’m complaining). My only concern at the moment is to keep the TP stocked, the ammo dry, and be generally vigilant, though Lars’s heroes are thus far keeping their bullshit west of El Cajon.

My sister (big-city municipal firefighter) is also missing it thanks to knee surgery, but her boyfriend (CHP cop) is stuck in it, as is my cousin who’s a cop in Vegas (she had a really bad night last night, but I don’t know any details).

Fyrfighter

Much thanks Ninja!

We’re doing what we can to be sure we stay safe, luckily, so far thinngs have been relatively calm in our area. At home, there’s been a few recent “credible threats” of attacks / bombs at nearby walmart and other places that the LEO ‘s are investigating, so as TOW said, keeping the powder dry.
Other than that, we’ll keep doing what we do.

ninja

For Commissar:

“Barr Ordered Officials To Clear Area Around Lafayette Square Before Trump’s Protest Remarks, Officials Say”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-lafayette-square-trump-protest-remarks

A Proud Infidel®™

I think he ran off to his “Safe Space” to go hit the coloring books, but that’s only if his fellow hippies didn’t already eat the crayons!

Combat Historian

Larsy left to enlist as the S5/Political Commissar of the local Berzerkly Antifa Sturm Brigade?

rgr769

Well, he has those skilz in training third worlders in The Rule of Law, so he should have the ability to advise his Antifa pals on how to counter it as enemies of our republic. Plus, he knows all about commie revolutionary actions he learnt at Berzerkeley.

SFC D

This made me a hell of a lot happier than it should’ve. I feel no guilt about laughing, however!

Twitter- I’m on your side!

11B-Mailclerk

Welcome to reality gents.

HMCS(FMF) ret

A little “blue on blue” action from last night:

https://twitter.com/heckyessica/status/1267916493016240129

HMCS(FMF) ret
HMCS(FMF) ret

From over at Instapundit – video of rioters in action (multiple links at site):

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/377481/#respond

The Other Whitey

How ‘bout it, Taylor? Tell us all how “patriotic” it is to shoot a 77-year-old man on the sidewalk, and how “patriotic” the rest of them were who took video of him with their phones as he bled to death on the ground, but didn’t lift a finger to help. Tell us, you fucking piece of roach shit!

HMCS(FMF) ret

He’s probably prepping for tonight… making urine bombs and flaming tampons to throw at the “fascists”.

ninja
ninja
26Limabeans

TNX. I’m running out of windshield washer.

Jeff LPH 3, 63-66

Brink’s has their Global Services office at 580 5th ave which is in the heart of the diamond district and runs across town on W 47 st from 5th ave to 6th ave. I wonder if the street was blocked off on both ends since the industry has a lot of clout with the city.

Blaster

Well,, hell,,, after reading this thread, I have to ask- what if,,, dog was spelled C-A-T?

Since bad is really good, and I’m just too stupid to understand!

I guess I’ll go back to drinking 90proof and drilling holes in my bullets!

The Other Whitey

Give that man a medal and a case of his preferred libation!

11B-Mailclerk

Troll level: Jedi

HMCS(FMF) ret

At least some of these riots appear coordinated and are preplanned events across state lines. John Miller, the NYPD deputy commissioner for intelligence and counterterrorism, stated Sunday that there’s evidence some of these groups have organized scouts, medics and supply routes of rocks, bottles and accelerants, and authorities have already made a large number of arrests from out of state. And the Minneapolis police report that they have found water bottles filled with gasoline hidden in bushes throughout neighborhoods where fires were set.

Unorganized my ass, Commissar…

11B-Mailclerk

He had best be careful choosing his playmates.

Some punk trust-fund socialist kid facing five years in federal “general population” will sell his ass out in a heartbeat.

So will the hardcores, because he -isnt- hardcore, red nor black.

(the Abyss gazes)

26Limabeans

Seagulls.
So I picked up my new Sportster at the Harley dealer
on the Revere Beach Parkway and headed for home.
A few blocks later while waiting in traffic a Seagull
shits from above all over my new Vanson leathers.
Shiny green and yellow shit running down my shoulder.
Stuff looks like it has glitter in it.
The other drivers dare not laugh. After all I was a mean
motherfucker on that Sportster, shit glitter or not.
Then I remembered the time we put dry ice in a balled up
piece of bread and tossed it on the beach for a Seagull.
He ate it and a few minute later had an explosive gut
reaction to an abundance of Carbon Dioxide.

So what’s the moral of the story? There isn’t one.

Combat Historian

So the south Philly gun store owner who killed a looter breaking into his store is now being condemned by the mayor and the police commissioner for his “vigilante justice”. With the political pressure on, I would not be surprised if the Philly DA (a Soros Stooge) charges the poor store owner with murder. With this kind of “leadership” in charge, Philly may very well be burned to the ground. The citizens of Philly voted for this “leadership”; now they are about to reap the harvest of their sowing, good and hard…

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/06/03/mayor-condemns-vigilante-justice-after-small-business-owner-shoots-kills-looter-n2569966

OWB

Last night’s episode of “Riots R US” was a bit on the boring side thanks to the assorted actions of various officials scattered around the country. And thanks to normal, sane citizens of every possible description making it clear that this is unacceptable behavior.