Wittgenfeldian Legal Logic: Epic Fail (nascent Civil complaint)
As most of you have seen, Wittgenfeld continues his Jihad on logic and the law by threatening not only Jonn and I, but also commenters. It’s all asinine, and he is using legal threats to either bump up his comment count (see for example comments like “My goal is 600 or more comments by you jack-offs.”) or, alternatively, to cow people into not commenting. Like everything else dealing with Wittgenfeld, it doesn’t make any sense.
I’m going to look at both the Civil and Criminal claims of Wittgenfeld, and lay them out so you can relax about all his threats.
Here’s a perfect example of Wittgenfeldian logic:
I have proof that you idiots right here came onto my facebook [sic] and stole this picture hereon [sic] from my wife… A year ago Scooty [sic] and his gang via Lilyea and Seavey and off to POWnetwork…. Links up pretty good, I think [sic]
Now, that is only slightly ironic, given that this jackass steals stuff from my friends and family on a weekly basis, and then posts it up. Just how ridiculous is Wittgenfeld? A few weeks ago he made another flier about my perfidy by stealing pictures from my Facebook page. Only, the moron stole pictures of The Sniper and Ponsdorf, and mistakenly labeled them as me.
Just yesterday Wittgenfeld stole a picture of me and Uncle Jimbo, which is probably still up on his Facebook page.
Nonetheless, his latest bit of idiocy is to conflate civil and criminal law, and make perplexing statements like “We will all go to jail…. are you ready…?”
Well, actually, no. Wittgenfeld seems to think for some reason that he is authorized under law to “procecute” (presumably he means “prosecute”) us based on the hearsay advice of his mental health counselor. Actually, no. Criminal law violations are handled by law enforcement officials.
But review the data on the civil complaints that he threatens…. Take for example the earlier mentioned comment, his latest attempt to intimidate through threatened legal action, which contains this:
When I found out who and where you people operated from… I contacted your employers where you cast your cyber/harassment ploys onto honorable discharged [sic] combat disabled Vietnam War Veterans of the elite Airborne Rangers.
Now young Seavey at the National American Legion..? He is VERY vulnerable… I told him so… Still he chooses Mil/Kooking… now the burn pit will take a whole NEW direction… I promise that.
And I got the dddress [sic] of the American Legion National Headquarters andn [sic] ew-media [sic] perpetrator Seavey phone numbers and links.
And I have plenty of witnesses… I am set pretty good. We will see tomorrow.
Now, he does indeed have my address and phone number. Because I gave it to him in the first and second emails I had with him. Now, he further alleges he needs my private residence phone number and address.
On Seavey,… I got his business numbers and address… but to save him embarrassment in Indianapolis American Legion Headquarters he needs to send me his residence phone number and his residence address for serving his paperwork.
Actually, you do not need those numbers or addresses. A civil suit needs to be served, but any information like my actual residence can be omitted. The important thing would be to serve me, and he has my address to do so. Hell, I’d meet the guy in the lobby. No need to save me any embarrassment, there is nothing to be ashamed about being sued by a man with obvious persecution complex issues and mental instability. Happens all the time.
The second problem for Wittgenfeld here is that he admits openly that he has contacted my employer. He’s actually contacted a boatload of other people. In those emails he makes allegations which are simply untrue, to wit, that I am “harassing him”. These comments amount to defamation, but of a more interesting problem is that they also amount to the Tort of “Tortious interference”. In Indiana, where he sent many of these emails, where he claims to be a resident, and where the actual Tort occurred:
The elements of tortious interference with a business relationship are: “(1) the existence of a valid relationship; (2) the defendant’s knowledge of the existence of the relationship; (3) the defendant’s intentional interference with that relationship; (4) the absence of justification; and (5) damages resulting from defendant’s wrongful interference with the relationship.” Felsher v. Univ. of Evansville, 755 N.E.2d 589, 598 n.21 (Ind. 2001) (citing Levee v. Beeching, 729 N.E.2d 215, 222 (Ind. Ct. App. 2000)).
Now, he sent these emails etc to not only my work, but several other non-profits that he was well aware I had a relationship with. So, this right there is why he won’t be suing me in a civil claim anytime soon. He knows (or at least his lawyer does) that a) it would cost a ton to serve me in a state he’s not in; b) that he’s not likely to prevail, as he has no cause of action, and c) that I could counter-sue.
But, just for kicks, let’s look at his common complaint, that we are “harassing him.” He has left repeated messages on this regard, and has his friend and phony SEAL Arthur South backing him up on their virtually unreadable blog, “Truth About Harassment/Archslayer-Warrior of God.” Naturally it doesn’t allow comments, so there is no way of trying to figure out what the hell they mean by threats of lawsuit such as posed in this post:
POWNETWORK: Lawsuits are coming!!!
Looks like this will be one of MANY coming your way Mary. Hope you can deal with the heat headed your way. Not really, we do not wish you the best in anything. We want to see you squirm, like you have made so many others squirm from your posting of LIES and half truths.
OK, so let’s look at the facts. Jonn has deleted many of Wittgenfeld’s comments, because he invariably just cuts/pastes the same comment into numerous threads. However, the alleged “harassed” in this instance has now left no fewer than 104 comments on the blog he alleges is harassing him. He has sent me 99 emails.
For those in the cheap seats, harassment generally requires certain elements noted at this page:
Harassment is governed by state laws, which vary by state, but is generally defined as a course of conduct which annoys, threatens, intimidates, alarms, or puts a person in fear of their safety. Harassment is unwanted, unwelcomed and uninvited behavior that demeans, threatens or offends the victim and results in a hostile environment for the victim.
The problem for Wittgenfeld (even assuming there was an actual tort for Harassment, which there is not) is that part that says it has to be “uninvited.” One can not comment on a blog 104 times, and compound it with 99 emails (and untold more to the others he threats) and consider any comment about him “uninvited.” In fact, in what would be considered an “admission against interest” that would doom anything he brought up, I would cite back to his comment that:
“My goal is 600 or more comments by you jack-offs.”
Rather than being a victim of any harassment, this comment proves he revels in it. In fact, other comments vitiate his claims to victimhood as well, as he makes clear anything that we have said about him could not damage his sterling reputation:
You people are pathetic and anyone (normal) would agree with me.
In this he admits that anyone reading what we write would look down on us, not him. That of course undermines his claim for any damages, which would be intrinsic to a tort claim.
Lastly, far from being a “victim” again, Wittgenfeld has made clear on numerous instances that he revels in his infamy.
Hey, I like that “flying cock and balls” brass artwork… That’s a keeper for me….
Soooo is this great picture of me on the A-Team. I love Mr-T. I used to have an A-Team Dodge Ram Van too. The girls called it “the love machine”.
LoNg RaNgE PaTrOL 41
The only conceivable Torts that Wittgenfeld might assert are “intentional infliction of emotional distress” and “defamation.” But those fall to the legal infirmities I noted above. 1) he invited the discussions. 2) seems to revel in them. 3) has yet to allege any comments by Jonn or I that were not true. 4) has suffered (by his own admission) no damages whatsoever.
In short, he has no civil case, and likely knows (or his lawyer should) that he has himself committed torts.
Category: Politics
I don’t know, Joe.
I’m working on “Babes and Bullets”. I don’t think I’ll have time, either.
Cue the fat broad; it’s well past time for her to sing.
http://truthaboutharassment.blogspot.com/2012/10/green-on-green-no-shame-no-honor-part-1.html?spref=fb
just to remind everyone of Scotty’s band of idiots, that do everything they can underhandedly of course to spread their proven lies. Fake female profiles, you name it; they do it. For the sake of pure truth, Scotty and his band of idiots created pages using Arthur South’s father as a picture of him. So it’s not fair to do as you do to others Scooter? Who’s really the crybaby here? Don’t answer truthfully, it might cause you to cry.
Well, I see you’re back dissembling again, “Justlookatit”. Enjoy.
You do realize, of course, that nothing you say changes the facts regarding any of Wittgenfeld’s documented lies? Such as the multiple published articles citing him as having a BSM w/V in the 1970s? Or his lying his way into the SF Association in the 1990s – along with his getting booted from the SFA for that reason? Or the fact that he’s still claiming to have been “Special Forces” when he never was? Or his demonstrated racism, misogyny, and generally boorish, jackass-like behavior?
I also see you appear to be posting from Apple Valley, CA. If that’s the case, say hello to Arthur South for us. I understand that’s where South hangs his hat these days.
And if you’re Art himself, just take this comment as a “hello”.
So much hurt feelings here. At this point I honestly think the biggest thing people here are crying about is being doped into thinking young attractive females were actually interested in them. Reading between the lines; all I am seeing is the sting of rejection that most males learn to overcome around the time they are legally allowed to enter a bar and fumble for words to speak with the female clientele.
Will this tired string ever go away? I understand my commenting on it does not help but seriously! It’s like a bad joke that keeps getting told. Knock-knock. Who’s there? Bruised egos.
SF Justice: obviously you didn’t look at this relatively recent (6 weeks or so ago) claim of Wittgenfeld’s:
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=32158
Bottom line: as of approx 26 September 2012, Wittgenfeld was still claiming to have once held a “Special Forces MOS”. He never was SF.
Wittgenfeld does not meet and never has met the criteria for SFA Associate membership. That criteria requires a non-SF-qualified individual to have either (1) service for 24 months during peacetime while assigned to an SF unit; (2) 6 mo combat-zone service with a SF unit; or (3) to “have contributed in a unique and definable way if the time periods are not met.”
http://www.specialforcesassociation.org/about/membership/
Wittgenfeld’s records demonstrate clearly that he has no service with SF units whatsoever. Ranger units are not SF, so his first 8 months in Vietnam do not qualify. His assignment to the RTAVF-SLS doesn’t qualify either, as that was not an SF unit. Rather, it was part of HQ II FFORCEV – specifically, it was a liaison section provided by HQ II FORCEV to a subordinate allied unit. Further, even if it qualified the time would not be sufficient; it wasn’t an assignment of 6 months or longer in duration. Wittgenfeld was assigned to RTAVF-SLS from 29 Apr 1970 to 15 Aug 1970, or about 3 1/2 months.
And there’s no way in hell Wittgenfeld “contributed in a unique and definable way” to SF, at least not in a positive way. Bringing discredit onto SF by (1) publicly falsely claiming to be SF and (2) acting like a complete jackass while flaunting SFA membership certainly isn’t anything positive.
The guy is still lying through his teeth about being SF. He wasn’t.
I stood close to a SF guy once…can I be as cool as Dallas?
@54
Am I the only one who reads his name as “Just Look A Tit.”?
SFJustice: an addendum. You are incorrect, fella. False claims of being SF, of serving as SF in Vietnam, and of lying about his qualifications on his SFA membership application were three of the seven specific reasons for which Wittgenfeld was booted from the SFA.
http://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=31899
@58 Sadly, I must admit you are not…
#53Justlookatit
At no time have we ever used any photo’s of your family or of Dallas Wittgenfelds family. The photo’s we have of you taken from your wife’s myspace account Arthur South. We could have used photo’s of both your family & dilly Dallas’s family. But unlike you & your band of poser losers. We have honor & only involved you.And ever since exposing you & dilly Dallas, all you two have done is whine & cry. Get over it boys, you’ve been busted.
Let me bring everyone up to date on Poser Arthur South. His first claim was that he was a Navy SEAL for 12 years. When his name was confirmed of not being on the SEAL roster. He was contacted by an Actual Retired Navy SEAL. Arthur then claimed that he never served in the US Military at all & wrote an apology stating so.His information released under the Freedom of Information Act shows that Arthur spent six years in the USNR as a cooks Helper. Now he is claiming that we are dishonoring a honorable Veteran. Lie-ing about being a Navy SEAL & about not serving at all does not constitute a honorable Veteran.http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/05/arthur-south-navy-seal-poser-blog-of.html
We are all going on National TV very soon…. 🙂 I got the goods on you idiots. Producers are trying to get me to write it all up on you young band of bastards.
How’s this sound for a title:
“Stolen Valor Intellegence Agency”
released upon Vietnam War Veterans
by
former Vietnam Airborne Ranger LRP Dallas Wittgenfeld
They are talking a “pulitzer prize” investigative broadcast here.
Thanks for you alls participation.
Dullass Lardass Whipitnflogit is still at it. What a loser. He is so desperate for attention that he has to resort to Stealing a photo,(i.e. Claiming ownership), and Lying about same photo, (Accusing the photographer,me, of stealing it from him), and nothing he says or does will undo that fact.
Dallas Whitgenfeld is a liar and a thief.
@63 Cool. When is the Al Jazeera TV special?
Hmmmmm. Well, you do see all sorts of crazy stuff on public access cable channels at 2AM, so I guess it’s possible. Years ago one episode of a thoroughly vile program called The Great Satan at Large aired on some public access cable channels. Wittgenfeld’s purported “expose” would fit right in with that kind of idiotic garbage.
Hey Frankly Opium-nated, I have never stole or used anything of yours when I have soooo many pictures of me me only NOT you dumb ASS. Please do not try to make yourself “a significant character” in this story. You are a NONE ITEM. By the way… Where is that picture I STOLE..? I don’t have it… Do you…? Then shut up stupid old man. When YOU get enough balls to do all that I do… then come wha, wha, wha… Other wise…get a life. As for the rest of you band of bastards how about those apologies you guys owe me and every other person you peuks lie about for you fun and profit. HONDO you still have NOT got all the truth down about me… You seem to be jigging and jagging on admitting I was trained by Special Forces and Airborne Ranger cadre in Vietnam like a thousand other Vietnam real-deal Airborne Rangers LRRPS. Radio code communications operators like me are SOP for such “Special Operator” missions and you all know that. I was trained (in combat) by Special Forces and Airborne Ranger MSG. William Butler namesake “Camp Butler” Warrior Training Center Ft. Benning. Have you got that picture..? After combat missions with two Ranger LRRP Infantry companies, I was “SELECTED” by the famed 46th Special Forces Commander (Colonel Robert Bartelt) as HIS tier one “Special Liaison N.C.O.” for the Thai P.A.R.U. counter-insurgency mercenarie forces funded by the C.I.A. You keep trying to Poo, Poo all that, and then we found out you do NOT KNOW shit about the Vietnam War. SHAME ON YOU PUNK IRAQ & AFGHAN WAR VETS FOR HARASSING AND DISHONORING COMBAT DISABLED VIETNAM WAR VETERANS OF THE ELITE AIRBORNE RANGERS. As far as television and such. I was doing TV when you punks were sucking your mamas tits… NONE of which ever mentioned my military experiences… NO GREEN BERET bullshit you asses like to perpetuate. I have all the same media connections as Mark C. Seavey. See where this is going…? 🙂 OH YAH… How many times do I have to scream at… Read more »
**yawn**
Thank you & Welcome home 05B20 RTO Dallas Wittgenfeld. A LRRP that you wish you were. BTW Radio Cookie South to fix me a sammich BOY !
Jesus Fuckin H. Tapdancin Christ, DullASS.
I got more time on the pond on the shitter at test depth doing a backing bell than you have total.
How ’bout you sit on it and fucking rotate, mkay?
And let me know when you’re sending out invites for your “show” too. I’d love to be in the audience for that one, or better yet, on stage.
Take your “lone wolf” bullshit and don’t go away angry, just go away.
You spelled mercenary wrong.
Claims of being a lone wolf. Here is a screen save of him communicating with a SEAL poser & a Marine poser. More of RTO boys lies.
http://scotty-stolenvaloroffendersexposed.blogspot.com/2012/06/three-idioteers.html
Well, well, as is his Modus Operandi; guess who shows up when no one talks about him in a month? You can keep blabbing on, but I, for one, am done talking to you, Dallas. Keep up the good work, buddy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk57BxEiXbk&feature=share
Catch up with me by watching this…. then apologize yawners…
BYE the way… Have you Leggs seen the latest “Dallas Creation” “ARMY RANGER PARACHUTE”….mine…!
Guess where my very first promotional jump for it is going to be. ? Come on… guess. You guys know me. I always have a shit-eating surprize to stick in your eye…
Imagine real deal Nam Airborne Ranger Drill Sergeant Dallas flying HIS “Army Ranger LoGo Parachute” onto Fryer Field Ft. Benning during a dedication there. 🙂 GREEN BERETS INVITED
You know, I know people there, right..? And you punks never mention I have a Ranger Brick on the Ranger Walk of Fame. Soooo, which one of you unknown harassers is Ranger Monger. Come out of your closet for some expose’.
I wonder who Drill Sergeant Dallas is going to be “whailing to” while wearing his original Vietnam Airborne Ranger Beret and LRRP tab.
SAY IT. SAY IT….!
“I N F A N T R Y C O M M A N D E R “
Infantry commander =/= to enlisted RTO.
Scotty..? I had never heard of those other “Stolen Valor Mafia” victims till you spashed me all over them. Then you other idiots put a real deal ranger on your shit-pile of posers to harass a 100% combat disabled.
You all are guilty as sin and the “real people” across America will eventually find out about this new niche’cottage industry focused against honorable discharged Vietnam War Veterans.
“America’s Stolen Valor Agency” (A.S.V.A.)is operated by government archivists and the military service club of the American Legion national headquarters, for one. Other service organizations are involved in this dispicable phenom. ONE infamous civilian entitiy is named POW network..? WTF..?
Mostly younger Iraq & Afghan War Veterans including current duty military are deeply involved and perpetuate the activities (from the war-zones) for cyber/sport and profit. All involved have “Pay-Pal” monikered accounts thereon.
“Stolen Valor Intellegence Agency”
He obviously has no “Intellegence”, since he can’t even spell it.
@73, Old Trooper, somebody mentioned Witlessgelding’s name somewhere a day or two ago.
I TOLD you guys to not do that. I TOLD you has has ego-feeding radar. He can SMELL it when you do that. It’s like smelling a fart. He’s just looking for the source.
Ah! Found it! On the Todd Hamilton column,I posted 12/7:
Sparky, every time you mention dw, he can smell it. He has radar for it. He is drawn to mentioning himself like a cockroach to an empty tuna can. The zombie will rise again.
Get it right Scotty. You are the Legg Jarhead who got all these other people in their shit-hole. These are my very important MOS’s unlike your dull shit… “I wish I had you for a cruit”. I’d have a room in barracks for you… just you…
05-2P S.F. Team MOS
Airborne code communications operator
11B-2P S.F. Team MOS
Airborne Infantry & C.I.B.
00F Specialty MOS
1st Army Academy Drill Sergeant
Did I mention…. I am STILL a current staticline parachutist of rounds and a current free-faller flying high performance squares. Anybody in this cyber/shit-hole as qualified as me…. right now…? Then all others shut up.
Wow,It appears that 05B20 RTO Wittgenfeld is butt hurt once again over being exposed for lying.Cookie South have my sammich ready yet. Get on that radio boy. Chop Chop.
# 67 For someone who doesn’t blog, Then why do you have a Google account.I traced your account from the Archslayer blogspot Thunder Chicken.Give it up stupid old man. You’ve told so many lies that you can’t keep up with all of them. Your like a hoodlum bringing a knife to a gunfight. https://plus.google.com/114513534688093825424/posts
Purple Heart Parachutist opens CPS Wounded Warrior…
Combat Wounded Parachutist? In Viet Nam?
Just curious …
What Parachute Operation during the Viet Nam War was he wounded in?
Some one help me understand what a Purple Heart or Combat Wounded Parachutist is.
WTF is the “1st Army Academy?”
@71: At this point I’d be shocked if he spelled anything right.
“I have a Ranger Brick on the Ranger Walk of Fame”.
Yo … Fu*k Stick … listen up.
“I can purchase a short flat tip screw driver for about $1.37 and pop that brick out in a New York minute next time I am down there”.
You are a complete and utter fool!
Ranger monger? What in the blue-eyed world is a ranger monger? Is that one word, two words, or hyphenated?
Oh, that can’t be passed up. Added to my list.
DullASS, seriously. A bit of friendly advice:
You. Meds. Dosage. Increase. NOW.
Yeah, Dallas, your threats ring a bit hollow since you threatened for months to show up in Branson and the photo that you claim was you in Branson showed a bright and sunny day while the weather that day in Branson was dark and rainy. After all of your bluster, you chickened out in the end. Not a first, I’m sure.
I’m also sure that you’re not jumping anymore. After you swiped Frankie’s picture, I looked at all of your pictures and I can’t find one that you can prove is you. I’m pretty certain that there’s not a pilot on the planet that would let you parachute from their plane given your mental state.
I’m still waiting for you or your lawyer to serve me. If you check Google Earth, search on This Ain’t Hell and there’s a pin stuck right in my front yard. In fact, I just called Google and had them move it to the right place. I did that just for you.
So my message is; put up or shut up.
At this point, I have to ask if it’s okay to spoof Witlessgelding?
@80
” 05-2P S.F. Team MOS
Airborne code communications operator
11B-2P S.F. Team MOS
Airborne Infantry & C.I.B. ”
What are you talking about. These are not SF MOS’. Why do you insist on padding your resume?
Your real service record is commendable. Just stop this madness.
smoke-check: that’s true. Unfortunately, a commendable record isn’t good enough for Wittgenfeld. He’s a legend in his own mind, and apparently feels he has to be the second coming of Audie Murphy.
I’d recommend you not waste your time on this tool, smoke-check. Wittgenfeld appears to have lost contact with reality some time ago. It’s sad, really.
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Wittgenfeld: just shut up, old fool. All you do every time you open your mouth here is to reconfirm your idiocy.
Two examples. First: as smoke-check observed, the MOSs you cite are not unique to SF, and weren’t during Vietnam. Prior to the 18 CMF, the “S” ASI was what denoted SF qualification. No “S” ASI = not SF.
Second: being trained by former SF personnel doesn’t say jack about the trainee. In particular, being taught by someone who’s current or former SF does NOT make the individual receiving the training SF. That’s a function of the training received – not the trainer’s background.
Of course, you’d need common sense and a grasp of reality to understand that. And you appear to lack both.
Hey Y’all; in reference to Dullass Whipitnflogit’s:
“Hey Frankly Opium-nated, I have never stole or used anything of yours when I have soooo many pictures of me me only NOT you dumb ASS.
Please do not try to make yourself “a significant character” in this story. You are a NONE ITEM.
By the way… Where is that picture I STOLE..? I don’t have it… Do you…? Then shut up stupid old man. When YOU get enough balls to do all that I do… then come wha, wha, wha… Other wise…get a life.”
So that everyone can get the real story, and since I don’t know how to insert a photo into a comment here, I have sent the photo in question and the comment that I would use over to Jonn. He may post it in this thread.
Um, Dullass, “significant character in this story”? I have contended from the start that the lyin n thievin side of you is my only comment about you. You are the insignificant character in this significant story. According to my contacts at Skydive Deland, you are a washed up joke. And that comes from those in the top 10% of total jumps using that facility.
Frankly O;
Dullass found this photo among my profile photos, and claimed it as his own, constituting thievery, and then accused me of stealing it from him, making him a liar. The photo in this image is of an art design that I created. I have the original photo, in high resolution, in my photo library. He did this awhile back, on Facebook, when his bonafides were called into question. I have been assured that a screen cap exists of his claiming the photo as his. I don’t give a damn if anyone grabs a photo of mine to post on their page, (it is one reason that I upload them to FB), but to first claim it as theirs, then to accuse me of theft doesn’t work with me. This incident proves him to me to be both a liar and a thief.
RE: #94 Thanks Jonn.
Dallas, by your logic my Drill Sergeant who had a scuba bubble makes my MOS a scuba MOS?
Why do you insist on coming back here and saying things that make no sense? Come on brother. You are one of us. You are throwing yourself in with the lot of scumbags exposed here. What are you trying to accomplish? You served, and from what I can tell served honorably. And served on a level the majority of vets never reached. Why are you coming here insulting us for pointing out things out that you and I both know are not true? For sanity sake man!
Frankly O. – the metadata file on the original photograph and/or graphic design will have your name embedded on it. You are also able, before you post anything on the internet, to add a watermark with your name on it through Adobe’s software packages. I’ve done this when I thought it was necessary, because intellectual property theft is rampant on the internet.
It is also possible, if you have the software to do it, to put a glyph on your IP images and copy to prevent them from being copied and claimed by someone else.
It’s a nice image, by the way.
@96: SC, my dad was a LRRP with all the salad and bling (Recondo, Jungle Expert, etc.) and was trained by the same SF/Ranger types as Dallas, but he has never made the same characterizations that Dallas has. In fact, the only way I found out about what he did in Vietnam was by pulling one of his uniform tops out of his duffel bag, that was in the basement in a corner, and taking it to my Scout Master, who was an E-8 at the time, to tell me what all that stuff was. I later learned the rest of it when we (the old man and I) were having a beer when I was home on leave. Most people don’t know about any of it and have no idea, except when he has his shirt off and you see all the scars, then you get an idea of what he went through.
Ex-Ph2, thanks. For this purpose, if dumbshit were to make noise, (not that continual flatulence sound that we’ve been hearing from him for so long), I would be interested only in convincing any of us of the validity of my claim. To do that I would need only to produce the uncropped, full resolution original on here. I seriously doubt that I would need to do that, as those here know who and what I am and what I stand for. Also, a link to the FB album where I have the photo online would show many photos of that day, with the same clouds working overhead in each.
Thanks for the compliment on the photo. Every once in awhile a good photo just appears in front of the camera.
FYI, the jump event was of Army Ranger Instructors of the 6th Ranger Training Bn and guys from 7th Special Forces Group. The jumper in that particular photo is a Major from 7th SFG, and he was jumping the MC-6 canopy. One of the perks of being a member in good standing of “The Florida Swamp Ranger Camp”.