Ermey is trying to say something here

Melle: Please don’t associate NotSoOldMarine with me. I’m the sane one 🙂

Actually, the Socialist Party of America didn’t desolve 40 years ago; it was 37 years ago, here’s the poop on that:

DSA was formed in 1982 by a merger of the Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee (DSOC) and the New American Movement (NAM). DSOC was the largest group to emerge from the splintering of the Socialist Party of America in 1973; two other Socialist Party factions went on to form Social Democrats USA and the Socialist Party USA. NAM was a coalition of writers and intellectuals with roots in both the New Left movements of the 1960s and the more traditional parties of the Old Left.

Initially the DSA consisted of approximately 5,000 ex-DSOC members and 1,000 ex-NAM members. Upon the DSA’s founding, Michael Harrington and socialist-feminist author Barbara Ehrenreich were elected as the organization’s co-chairs.

That’s from that far right website Wikipedia.

Here’s more from that far right site Wikipedia:

Originally DSA, like DSOC before it, was very strongly associated with Michael Harrington’s position that “the left wing of realism is found today in the Democratic Party.” In its early years DSA backed relatively mainstream liberals such as Walter Mondale in spite of the dramatic growth of a left wing associated with Jesse Jackson and the Rainbow Coalition.[4] Subsequently DSA did enthusiastically support Jackson’s second presidential campaign in 1988.[5]

DSA’s position on US electoral politics has since evolved. Its present official position is that “Democratic socialists reject an either-or approach to electoral coalition building, focused solely on a new party or on realignment within the Democratic Party.”[6]

During the 1990s, DSA began looking to the Religious Right’s activism within the Republican Party as a model for how the Left could gain a greater foothold within the Democratic Party, which at the time was dominated by President Bill Clinton’s so-called “New Democrats” of the Democratic Leadership Council.[7] The group gave the Clinton administration an overall rating of C-, “less than satisfactory.”[8]

Now; what part of that doesn’t say democrat party??

Here’s some more for you to refute:

In 2008, the DSA critically supported[clarification needed][citation needed] Barack Obama in his race against Republican John McCain. Following Obama’s election, many on the right[14], began to allege that the policies of his administration may be “socialistic,” a claim rejected by DSA and the Obama administration alike. The widespread use of the word “socialism” as a political epithet against the Obama government by its opponents did lead to widespread media attention towards American socialist organizations, however.[citation needed] It caused National Director Frank Llewellyn to declare that “over the past 12 months, the Democratic Socialists of America has received more media attention than it has over the past 12 years.”[15]

Gosh, maybe there is something to democrats being part of the socialist/communist thingy?

BTW You haven’t refuted that Bobo’s mommie was a commie, that the grandparents that raised him were commies, that he was mentored by a commie and that he was trained by a commie.

So; when are ya gonna try to wiggle out of that?

Old Trooper,

Haha, okay, 37 years ago. Sorry. Regardless, my point was your smoking gun is a hoax.

This wikipedia regurgitation is a reflection of exactly what I said in my second post in this thread. There are Democrats and people who, for political expediency, identify with Dems that embrace Democratic Socialist concepts. Thats not a secret. As a matter of fact Sen. Bernie Sanders, while an independent, caucuses with Dems and is a full blown out of the closet Democratic Socialist. Both parties are huge tents that attract undesirable hangers-on to their fringes. The Dems get revolutionary pinko douche bags and the Republicans get violent racists and militia types. To paint that picture across both parties (a la Garofalo) isn’t reasonable or fair.

You mean violent racists like the New Black Panther Party? I don’t remember seeing any of them at any republican fundraiser. I don’t know what militias have to do with anything, other than wanting to have a government that abides by the Constitution. What I have seen is ideology that wants to transform this country into those shining examples of socialism like Europe, which is funny, because if the socialists were paying attention, they would have realized that that ship is sinking. As Maggie Thatcher pointed out “the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money”. That’s the reality of the current situation in Europe.

You can’t deny that the democrat party is home to a lot of socialists/communists including the current leader of the party, who just happens to be the President. If you look at the platform and goals of the CPUSA and the Democrat Party and place them side by side, you will see they are nearly identical, not completely identical, but enough to make it obvious enough for even Stevie Wonder to see.

BTW CPUSA stands for Comunist Party USA, in case you were wondering.

Old Trooper:
Always enjoy reading your rebuttals to the foolish.

NotSoOldMarine:
My gut instinct tells me that you are not in a line unit. If so, the rest of your unit probably treats you like we treated the 10% of shitbirds we had. Also, in the old days most Democrat politicians were pro-military, anti-communist/socialists and thought this was the greatest country. There are not alot of Democrat politicians like that today.

NotSoOldMarine: I guess that’s where we differ, I’m kinda a vulgar language using type of guy. I’m not proud of it, just stating a reality. It’s like Patton said “give it to ’em dirty, that way they remember it”. I’m old enough now to be considered “gruff” in some circles, because my life experiences have shown me a lot and I’m growing increasingly impatient with certain things or subjects. I know a lot of what I do from trial and error and just plain old experience. I don’t have time for “nuance” like John F-ing Kerry and I brook no bullshit from those that think they’re intellectually superior, just because they read from a book. None of that is aimed at you, but more a general statement.

Jacobite,

If an argument is lazy, illogical, ignorant or just structured around conspiracy than I’ll say so. You show up with half baked conspiracy theories and links to propaganda blogs and I’m not going to coddle that.

What I didn’t do is resort to juvenile behavior like calling someone NotSoOldMoron. That’s childish and I’ll call you out on that too. I also never challenged the character or service of anyone here. Why? Because I don’t know anyone here. I’ve had a lot of good friends who I think the world of whose politics are the complete opposite of mine. Doesn’t mean I challenge their personal integrity or service.

As for this place, I’ve been coming here since before I got out and that was almost 3 years ago. I’ve also seen the general tone of this place change over that time. Maybe it just has to do with the general political climate of the country, I don’t know. I don’t harbor any illusions that I’m going to fire off a few comments and have people going “My god, he’s totally right. I have to run out to the driveway and rip all my bumper stickers off.” I’m not stupid. Still, my personal ethics compel me to say something when I see what I view as an untruth, particularly when it’s manufactured to advance an agenda.

YatYas; I’m not center-right!! I’ve been told that I’m a card carrying right-wing extremist by none other than Janet Incompetano, no less!

Melle; you’re a girrrrl?? Jeezus H. Cripes!!! Who the fuck let a girrrrl in here!?!? Sonavabich! Now I’m gonna have to behave myself and watch my language!!!

Oh shit; sorry about the language.